New York Red Bulls: domain registration

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  1. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Thanks to lfcli30 for pointing this out over on the Onion Bag boards. The same person who registered houstondynamo.com has registered newyorkredbulls.com. Check it out:

    Domain Name: HOUSTONDYNAMO.COM

    Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
    Sullivan, Fran
    jlsully06@hotmail.com
    146-32 24th Avenue
    Whitestone, NY 11357
    US
    Phone: 646-831-8812

    Record expires on 27-Feb-2007
    Record created on 27-Feb-2006
    Database last updated on 27-Feb-2006



    Domain Name: NEWYORKREDBULLS.COM

    Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
    Sullivan, Fran
    jlsully06@hotmail.com
    146-32 24th Avenue
    Whitestone, NY 11357
    US
    Phone: 646-831-8812

    Record expires on 01-Mar-2007
    Record created on 01-Mar-2006
    Database last updated on 01-Mar-2006
     
  2. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    It might be without the S
    RedBullNewYork.com was registered last August and won't expired until 2015. I am guessing it's from someone from Red Bull.

    Domain Name: newyorkredbull.com

    Created on..............: Thu, Feb 16, 2006
    Expires on..............: Fri, Feb 16, 2007
    Record last updated on..: Thu, Feb 16, 2006

    Administrative Contact:

    Sergio Zanazzi
    13-10 145 Place
    Whitestone, NY 11357
    US
    Phone: 1-718-7020036
    Email: szanazzi@hotmail.com
     
  3. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    How much does it cost to register a trademark? I want to mess with you people's minds by registering a bunch of potential team names in Philadelphia, St. Louis, Atlanta, and Seattle.
     
  4. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    Domain Name: redbullnewyork.com

    Created on..............: Mon, Aug 01, 2005
    Expires on..............: Sat, Aug 01, 2015
    Record last updated on..: Fri, Feb 24, 2006

    Administrative Contact:
    Redbull newyork
    Antonio Moscatiello
    66-25 103 street Apt. 3T
    Forest Hills, NY 11375
    US
    Phone: 917 379 7896
    Email: schmone_b@yahoo.com


    Interesting that this one's different. Maybe it's something unrelated. But anyway, it really looks like "New York Red Bulls" is gonna be it.
     
  5. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    Not a lot, but it takes a while.
     
  6. Aljarov

    Aljarov Member

    Sep 14, 2004
    fmnorthamerica.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    I thought cyber squatting laws prevented this?
     
  7. Roma_Wolves

    Roma_Wolves New Member

    May 4, 2004
    Austin, Texas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    Prevent what? You can buy any url you want. But, I think if you are just prospecting and not actually using the name, the laws (unethically) allow a "more legitimate" user of the name to petition the courts for rights to it. Personally, I don't see how urls should be treated differently than any other property (real estate) rights, but that's just me.
     
  8. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    houstondynamo.com directs people to the MLS Houston website. The question is, is that just out of courtesy or is that the permanent link?
     
  9. cdin

    cdin Member

    Aug 23, 2004
    Waukesha, WI
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    Has anyone tried calling the phone numbers or writing an e-mail to the e-mail addresses?
     
  10. nedigital

    nedigital Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    Mass
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    funny you should have that as your pic/icon - i was going to comment on how awful the timing of that picture taking was. did they only take one from the whole press conf.?
     
  11. Aljarov

    Aljarov Member

    Sep 14, 2004
    fmnorthamerica.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    Okay, so prevent was the wrong word, but my point was that it made the process pointless.

    I think some of the people who sign up URLs, especially of other people's names should get nothing for it. It's not prospecting, it's borderline theft. Profiteering off someone elses name or trademark? It wouldn't be allowed in any other context apart from online.

    Anyways, back on subject....
     
  12. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    I think this is a cool thread and all, but I keep getting it confused w/ the other Red Bull threads in a "Ppl's Front of Judea vs. the Judean Ppl's Front vs. the Front of the Ppl of Judea" Monty Python way.

    Maybe the mods could change the title, adding a "domain name" to it or by merging it w/ the other threads??
     
  13. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    So does www.dynamohouston.com, meanwhile, www.chicagofire.com doesn't take you anywhere. I think that means it's just temporary.
     
  14. eric515

    eric515 Member

    May 8, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    Considering the team's official website would probably be redbull.mlsnet.com, I don't think they have much to worry about. ;)

    I know there are usually redirects, but ultimately I am guessing this is why most pro leagues have started doing this with their team's sites.
     
  15. Don_Crafts

    Don_Crafts New Member

    Oct 31, 2000
    20 House, Oswego
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    So we now have the New York Red Bulls or Red Bull New York, which ever. My question is this: Is Red Bull going to become an "Official" league sponsor? Therefore allowing them to sponsor the Metro's new jersey?

    Isn't it true that only league sponsors can advertise on team kits?
     
  16. jgoal5

    jgoal5 Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    LV-PA
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Re: New York Red Bulls


    Technically, they wouldn't need to become a sponsor, because the name of the team is Red Bull, and all but 2 clubs put the team name on the jersey. So in that space on the front would be RED BULL instead of MetroStars.
     
  17. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: New York Red Bulls


    :) I know. That was the old website setup by Tribesoft. I was just trying to show that the order of the name in the website may not even be indicative of what the name of the team ends up being. Dynamo Houston was my case in point, plus I just tried www.chicagofire.com to see if it re-routed me to their official page, which it didn't.
     
  19. Turk from Pigs Eye

    Turk from Pigs Eye New Member

    Jun 14, 2002
    Pigs Eye (St. Paul),
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    I found Fran's obit in the Garden City News:

    Fran Sullivan


    Fran Sullivan (nee Ford) born on October 5, 1934. She passed away on August 29, 2005. Fran was raised in Queens Village, NY. She married John Sullivan in 1963 and raised 2 sons Tom and Patrick in Garden City, NY for over twenty-eight years. She was active in St. Joseph CCD program for over 25 years and was also involved in the Garden City PTA. She was the first woman director of the Garden City Casino. She loved playing bridge and tennis with her friends and was active in the Garden City Country Club Womens Golf. She was a wonderful mother to Patrick and Tom. We will miss her. Visiting at the Fairchild Chapel, 7-9 p.m. Wednesday, 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. Thursday, Mass of Christian burial, St. Joseph’s Church Friday 9:45 a.m. Interment at Holy Rood Cemetery.
     
  20. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    And how does Sierra Mist feel about RedBull? Of course, Pepsico can always buy their own team.
     
  21. Ellison

    Ellison Member

    Jan 11, 2000
    New Jersey
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    who cares ?
     
  22. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Re: New York Red Bulls

    obviously the mods do, cuz they changed the title of the thread. And notice how many more hits and responses that this thread has gotten since the change? Coinkidink?
     
  23. Delta Blues

    Delta Blues New Member

    Jun 25, 1999
    King Willieville
    I think Red Bull SC would be an OK name myself.
     
  24. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    But that's not really the issue. Most of the discussion isn't about the name itself, but the rebranding.

    If the University of Tennessee suddenly decided to drop "Volunteers" and have their sports teams known as "Tennessee Red Bulls" what would the reaction of the students and alums be?
     
  25. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A lot more loud and violent than the re-branding of the Metrostars - for sure.
     

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