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27 Jul 2002, 10:07 AM
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WashPost: El Salvadoran Fan Sues U.S. Soccer
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2002Jul26.html
A holdover from the Honduras quaflifer at RFK last September. El Salvadoran fan suing to prevent ticket distribution process that U.S. Soccer uses to maintain a home field advantage.
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He filed a class-action lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Washington last month, alleging that his civil rights were violated and that U.S. Soccer used national origin as a basis for refusing to sell him tickets. The suit seeks an injunction on the alleged practice with monetary damages to be determined at trial, according to Martinez's D.C.-based attorney, Thomas J. Simeone.
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27 Jul 2002, 10:12 AM
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This guy's an idiot. I was at that game it there is now way the case will hold over in court. The USSF preventing selling to him to have homefield advantage? haha the crowd was over 75% Honduran fans.
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27 Jul 2002, 10:14 AM
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I bet he couldn't do that in Honduras. They'd have him arrested in a heartbeat. I love how people from countries with no history of due process come here and take full advantage of our system! [end rant]
I think it will get thrown out since no one was denied the right to purchase a ticket. USSF will claim it was for security/safety of fans to separate seating. Not that it helped much since 2/3 of the stadium were Honduran supporters.
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27 Jul 2002, 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Alberto
I bet he couldn't do that in Honduras. They'd have him arrested in a heartbeat. I love how people from countries with no history of due process come here and take full advantage of our system! [end rant]
I think it will get thrown out since no one was denied the right to purchase a ticket. USSF will claim it was for security/safety of fans to separate seating. Not that it helped much since 2/3 of the stadium were Honduran supporters.
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I think you vastly overstate the sophistication of ticket distribution in Honduras or anywhere else in Latin America. If there was a large El Salvadoran population in Honduras, they'd be able to get their hands on tickets to a game without any problems. The issue in L.A. is that there typically are not large immigrant populations.
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27 Jul 2002, 10:30 AM
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colleges do this all the time, but legally, they make you join athletic foundations and donate certain amounts of money for tickets.
An example would be if you want tickets for the Honduras game you have to buy tickets for the Canada game as well. Something like that.
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27 Jul 2002, 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Alberto
I bet he couldn't do that in Honduras. They'd have him arrested in a heartbeat. I love how people from countries with no history of due process come here and take full advantage of our system! [end rant]
I think it will get thrown out since no one was denied the right to purchase a ticket. USSF will claim it was for security/safety of fans to separate seating. Not that it helped much since 2/3 of the stadium were Honduran supporters.
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Alberto:
You’re right. Many of my 'Hispanics' brothers abuse the system. I can attest to that.
But, remember, this is what makes this country great: A SYSTEM OF LAW WHERE NO ONE IS ABOVE IT AND, BY THE SAME TOKEN, NO ONE IS EXCLUDED FROM IT.
DUE PROCESS is one of the 'sacred' guarantees emanating from our 'bill of rights'.
I can recite by memory the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.
Can you?
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27 Jul 2002, 11:37 AM
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Maybe I should sue each and every Honduran for the physical and emotional damage my wife and I suffered when the beer, water bottles, food, and who knows what else rained down on us when we though we were at a home game.
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27 Jul 2002, 12:39 PM
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Maybe I should sue each and every Honduran for the physical and emotional damage my wife and I suffered when the beer, water bottles, food, and who knows what else rained down on us when we though we were at a home game.
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Sounds like the student section of an LSU home game.
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27 Jul 2002, 12:55 PM
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This is just another in a LONG line of "stupid" & "worthless" lawsuits IMHO.
Why shouldn't US Soccer do EVERYTHING in their power to establish a "true" home-field advantage for our USMNT, especially in a crucial WCQ?!! It's not as if he was denied access to ALL tickets. He could've purchased seats in the upper level.
Does anybody really think that if a group of US fans went to a WCQ in central america, we would be given "first-class" seats in the opponent's stadium?? I think NOT.
I APPLAUD US Soccer for taking the initative & trying to provide a home-field advantage for our boys, despite the fact that the Honduras WCQ "blew up" in our face. It's not racism, it's Nationalism or Patriotism, and there's NOTHING wrong with that.
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27 Jul 2002, 01:16 PM
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No not as bad as the abuse LSU fans "pour" out. I went to Tulane I suffered through a lot of bottles being thrown in my direction.
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