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01 Mar 2006, 09:25 PM
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Klinsmann and die Nationalmannschaft
EDIT: there will be another game thread
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March 22, 2006
Westfalenstadion (Dortmund, Germany)
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01 Mar 2006, 11:07 PM
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Re: Germany : United States [R]
This game is some time away but Klinsman defenitely needs to change a few things. First is first and thats bring Kehl into the damn team, if not, we might as well put a straight jacket on him and throw him into an asylum.
Second, the points made about the flat four were all true, a 3-5-2 just might work with our central midfielders and our pacey wingbacks who are better all out attacking anyways.
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02 Mar 2006, 12:11 AM
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Re: Germany : United States [R]
This game will be played on a non-international duty schedule. In other words, The US will not play with their European based players, don't know what Germany will do.
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02 Mar 2006, 12:28 AM
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Re: Germany : United States [R]
I think this would be a useless game for Germany to put all its starters in, for the reason that neither will the US. I say this game should give some youngsters a chance, maybe call up Manuel Friedrich, Malik Fathi, Piotr Trachowski, Stefan Keissling and/or Moritz Volz (pending approval). I don't see why not. Germany should also rest key players for this match as well. Dont' see the point of risking Ballack and Klose over what will be subsequently a "B" side.
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02 Mar 2006, 02:53 PM
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Re: Germany : United States [R]
im not very interested in that game.
i wait for 2010 and hope we have in 2010 a better team. i cant believe it, whats going on? we always had many high/worldclass players and after 1998 there was nothing, the german league sux more and more, the german clubs play international bad(mostly) and we loose every year more UEFA-Points....
why do all big european nations have youth academys? and germany not?
we always had big players and big talents but from on year to the other, not anymore.
How can a country with 16 Mio ppls(Holland) have so many worldclass players and a country with 82 Mio ppls(Germany) has 1 1/2 worldclass players??
why do german clubs always buy cheap east-europeans and southamericans and do not make young german players to big players? why?
our whole nationalteam sux and i hope that we will suc up at the WC, that the Mayer-Vorfelder and all others from German FA see that they have to build youth academys and learn from Holland, France and England.
i know thats off-topic
and sorry for my english, im still learning
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02 Mar 2006, 03:21 PM
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Re: Germany : United States [R]
I think "Die NationalMannschaft" will take out their anger on a second class American side. I would rather see the U.S. play their European based players, so we can still crush them like bugs. A statement needs to be made
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02 Mar 2006, 03:28 PM
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Re: Germany : United States [R]
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Originally Posted by snoooop
im not very interested in that game.
i wait for 2010 and hope we have in 2010 a better team. i cant believe it, whats going on? we always had many high/worldclass players and after 1998 there was nothing, the german league sux more and more, the german clubs play international bad(mostly) and we loose every year more UEFA-Points....
why do all big european nations have youth academys? and germany not?
we always had big players and big talents but from on year to the other, not anymore.
How can a country with 16 Mio ppls(Holland) have so many worldclass players and a country with 82 Mio ppls(Germany) has 1 1/2 worldclass players??
why do german clubs always buy cheap east-europeans and southamericans and do not make young german players to big players? why?
our whole nationalteam sux and i hope that we will suc up at the WC, that the Mayer-Vorfelder and all others from German FA see that they have to build youth academys and learn from Holland, France and England.
i know thats off-topic
and sorry for my english, im still learning 
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Quite frankly, I wouldn't blame the leauge...I mean, the Bundesliga is better than Holland's league by far and is just as competitive as any of the other big leagues. The Bundesliga also has the highest attendence rates in Europe, players should be attracted to playing in Germany. I just think many are intimidated by German culture and the german style, that along with many other things.
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02 Mar 2006, 03:38 PM
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Re: Germany : United States [R]
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Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Quite frankly, I wouldn't blame the leauge...I mean, the Bundesliga is better than Holland's league by far and is just as competitive as any of the other big leagues. The Bundesliga also has the highest attendence rates in Europe, players should be attracted to playing in Germany. I just think many are intimidated by German culture and the german style, that along with many other things.
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and its a financial thing, Bayern gets 16 Mio a year from TV and Juve gets over 200 Mio for 2 years from TV.
Germany is not like it was 40 years ago, it is multicultural here like in america or anywhere else, i go on street and see blacks,asians, a lot of russians and turkish ppls and from all other countrys, we have in germany no fans who make monkey-sound in stadiums when black players touch the ball like they do it in italy and spain.
the attendence is because, the tickets cost in england 3x more, we have everywhere new stadiums and all 18 clubs from the first league come from different citys and in england come 6? from London, 2 from Manchester, 2 from Liverpool and so on..
ive learned that everywhere the ppl think bad about germany but the think we are conservative and boring and thats not true.
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02 Mar 2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: Germany : United States [R]
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02 Mar 2006, 06:36 PM
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Re: Germany : United States [R]
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Originally Posted by Herr Wolf
I think "Die NationalMannschaft" will take out their anger on a second class American side. I would rather see the U.S. play their European based players, so we can still crush them like bugs. A statement needs to be made
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If your national team treats this game the way you are, YOU WILL NOT WIN against our team...especially with how awesome our form has been of yet.
I suggest you not underestimate the United States. We can play ball.
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