[eissman]

Lehmann at it once again... one soap opera ends (Days of Our Willy), another begins (As the Keepers Turn)...

LINK

(I really dislike Lehmann)

[scorpio81]

What about this one?


certainly made me warm up to him slightly!

[bayern15]

I think that Klinsman is making a mistake by sticking to Kahn as the GK for the world cup. If you remeber back in 1994, Ilgner was the first gk and kopke was the second gk. At the time, even though Kopke was much better that Ilgner, Vogst decided to stick with Ilgner just becouse of his past performances(see Italy 90 and Sweden 2002).Ilgner was a disaster in the game against Bulgaria.
In 1998, even though Kopke was past his prime and Kahn was in better shape, Vogst decided to stick to Kopke becouse of his performance in England 1996. Kopke was a disaster against Croatia in the semifinals.
I feel that Hildebrand should be the GK for Germany in the WC. I think Kahn will cause another disaster.
Thats just my opinion

[footyfan1]

Originally Posted by bayern15

I think that Klinsman is making a mistake by sticking to Kahn as the GK for the world cup. If you remeber back in 1994, Ilgner was the first gk and kopke was the second gk. At the time, even though Kopke was much better that Ilgner, Vogst decided to stick with Ilgner just becouse of his past performances(see Italy 90 and Sweden 2002).Ilgner was a disaster in the game against Bulgaria.
In 1998, even though Kopke was past his prime and Kahn was in better shape, Vogst decided to stick to Kopke becouse of his performance in England 1996. Kopke was a disaster against Croatia in the semifinals.
I feel that Hildebrand should be the GK for Germany in the WC. I think Kahn will cause another disaster.
Thats just my opinion

I respect your opinion and agree with everything you said except on who should replace Kahn. I think it should be Lehmann. I thought Lehmann should have been the Germany keeper at Euro 2004.

But if both were to be dropped, I'd then say Germany #1 should be Enke and after him, Weidenfeller.

I've said this on other threads before, but mark my words, if Klinsmann remains the Germany coach, in two years' time, Hildebrand won't even be in the Germany setup. Not unless he goes to Bayern to replace Kahn. Not just because he would be at Bayern, but because that Stuttgart defense looks like it's just going to get worse.

I think Hildebrand is good, but also severely overrated. I think the press made Hildebrand because of that Stuttgart defense, not anything special HE actually did on the pitch.

I don't think Hildebrand is as good as Enke, Weidenfeller or when he's fully recovered, Wiese. I believe Hildebrand largely benefitted from a strong Stuttgart defense. Now that he's facing more shots, his flaws are being exposed.

And even if Wiese can't move like he did before, he has a strong Werder defense in front of him. Weidenfeller has been putting up great numbers even with a s#itty BVB defense (Which will get younger next season) in front of him and Enke has just been the best so far this season for Hannover 96.

I'm not saying Hildebrand "sucks". On the contrary. As I said above, I think Hildebrand is good, but I just don't think he's one of the top three German keepers in the Bundesliga and if you add Lehmann (English Premiership) into the mix, that puts Hildebrand even further behind in my book.

But as I've stated, I feel if Klinsmann remains Germany coach, going into Euro 2008, the three men fighting for Germany #1 will be Enke, Weidenfeller and Wiese. I feel this way because unlike Vogts, Ribbeck and Voeller, Klinsmann doesn't let the German press pick his team.

[footyfan1]

Originally Posted by eissman

Lehmann at it once again... one soap opera ends (Days of Our Willy), another begins (As the Keepers Turn)...

LINK

(I really dislike Lehmann)

And I really dislike Kahn. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, what exactly did Lehmann say this time that wasn't true???

[footyfan1]

Originally Posted by scorpio81

What about this one?


certainly made me warm up to him slightly!

That made me laugh, but I also believe what Lehmann said about the way the two leagues play the game will come to pass.

Who would know better than he?

I think most of us know the Premiership is a much faster and rougher game than the Bundesliga version and it just might hurt England at the World Cup.

Time will tell, but I thought that was a very good observation.

[eissman]

Originally Posted by footyfan1

And I really dislike Kahn. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, what exactly did Lehmann say this time that wasn't true???

Don't know... don't really care honestly... I am just tired of these two battle-axes making something out of nothing. See some of us just tend to make emotion, glib comments on occasion... without thought... I being quite guilty of that.

AND... I completely agree with you (*GASP*) LOL... I think Germany should leave them both in the dust and take a younger keeper. (a) this shite is old as are Lehmann and Kahn, and (b) there are some really talented keepers out there. Your boy at Dortmund was MOST impressive when we last saw him.

Btw, what has ever happened to Timo???!!! His name seems to have fallen off the radar.

[eissman]

Besides... I think it is high time Germany has a keeper that doesn't sport a camel-toe in the net... I mean, come on guys... I bloody high is your waste line!! LOL...

[ForeverRed]

Originally Posted by eissman

Don't know... don't really care honestly... I am just tired of these two battle-axes making something out of nothing. See some of us just tend to make emotion, glib comments on occasion... without thought... I being quite guilty of that.

AND... I completely agree with you (*GASP*) LOL... I think Germany should leave them both in the dust and take a younger keeper. (a) this shite is old as are Lehmann and Kahn, and (b) there are some really talented keepers out there. Your boy at Dortmund was MOST impressive when we last saw him.

Btw, what has ever happened to Timo???!!! His name seems to have fallen off the radar.

Along with Stuttgarts....

As for the WC and our keepers, forget about Klinsman adding young keepers so close to the tournament. Don't worry, it'll all change after it.

[balla]

Kahn has been in great form this season though...