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10 Jan 2006, 08:22 PM
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Opinions on "diving"
Saw this from Soccer365 mediawatch.
No comments from me, I just wonder how you guys feel about it on a personel level.
Why Chelsea play like Chelsea
Says The Special One:
"A player in Portugal, Spain or Italy, who simulates and wins a penalty is regarded as a perceptive, experienced, extremely intelligent player who understands the game."
All of a sudden, it makes sense.
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10 Jan 2006, 09:24 PM
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Re: Opinions on "diving"
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Originally Posted by usscouse
Saw this from Soccer365 mediawatch.
No comments from me, I just wonder how you guys feel about it on a personel level.
Why Chelsea play like Chelsea
Says The Special One:
"A player in Portugal, Spain or Italy, who simulates and wins a penalty is regarded as a perceptive, experienced, extremely intelligent player who understands the game."
All of a sudden, it makes sense.
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I guess now that Liverpool is a La Liga side,it is easy to figure it out why your matches look more like aquatics activities. .
His actual words, which had nothing to do with Chelsea, just a comment on the differences in football cultures:
"a player in Portugal, Spain or Italy, feigns and gets a penalty, he wins with that penalty... he's a very intelligent player, experienced, perspicacious, that understands the game. In England however, a player that manages to pull off a penalty in that way is a cheater! He's a cheater! He's a player that has problems surviving in the league. In Great Britain, football is clean! There's this honesty culture, of simply playing the game; there is no "gray football" culture.
In that aspect the British are world champions, by miles."
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10 Jan 2006, 10:55 PM
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Re: Opinions on "diving"
diving sucks.
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10 Jan 2006, 10:58 PM
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Re: Opinions on "diving"
Depends on who's diving
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10 Jan 2006, 11:05 PM
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Re: Opinions on "diving"
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Originally Posted by Legionista
Depends on who's diving 
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as long as there a swimmnig pool, i don't care, just don't do it on grass.
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11 Jan 2006, 01:16 AM
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Re: Opinions on "diving"
We have two players who definitely go down too easily. They are Duff and Drogba. We have two other players who sometimes seem to fall a bit too freely, but who don't deserve to be labelled divers. They are Robben and Joe Cole. Note that not a single one of these players comes from Spain, Italy, or Portugal. Interesting, don't you think?
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11 Jan 2006, 01:27 AM
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Re: Opinions on "diving"
Diving occurs because there is little harm (rarely is someone carded) and the potential reward (getting someone carded, especially 2nd yellow) is great.
I hate to see a guy barely touched go down, start writhing around, all his teammates surrounding the ref b1atching and moaning, then when ref hands out yellow/red card to the guy who committed "foul", the diver carried off by teammates, 2 minutes later the diver subs in running fine.
I think diver should get the same card handed out to his victim, only fair.
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21 Jan 2006, 01:16 AM
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Re: Opinions on "diving"
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Originally Posted by 11Best
"a player in Portugal, Spain or Italy, feigns and gets a penalty, he wins with that penalty... he's a very intelligent player, experienced, perspicacious, that understands the game. In England however, a player that manages to pull off a penalty in that way is a cheater! He's a cheater! He's a player that has problems surviving in the league. In Great Britain, football is clean! There's this honesty culture, of simply playing the game; there is no "gray football" culture.
In that aspect the British are world champions, by miles."
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There you go again letting facts getting in the way of lies. Leave it to a scouser to misquote someone. Maybe he should be renamed USScouse@TheSun.com
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21 Jan 2006, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by blackjack
We have two players who definitely go down too easily. They are Duff and Drogba. We have two other players who sometimes seem to fall a bit too freely, but who don't deserve to be labelled divers. They are Robben and Joe Cole. Note that not a single one of these players comes from Spain, Italy, or Portugal. Interesting, don't you think?
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Actually, Cole and Eidur will, on rare occasions, actually take dives. Duff and Drogba do go down way too easily under contact, but Robben's entire reputation stems from one game against Portugal a year and a half ago. He hasn't been diving in the EPL, and actually stays on his feet surprisingly well.
I do think that sometimes "flair" players in the EPL get branded divers too easily - witness Mokoena not even getting a foul for ruining the second half of Robben's season last year. And yes, that probably includes the prancing giraffe from up north, who doesn't dive as much as he whines when not getting calls.
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21 Jan 2006, 08:14 AM
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Re: Opinions on "diving"
All posts on diving, cheating, lying, hair-pulling and spitting should really be re-directed to the experts on these matters in the Barcelona forum.
RE: Spitting?
Does spitting happen all the time or is it a seldom occurrence on the field of play?
Notorious spitters of the last 20 years (so far I have):
Eto'o
Totti
Diuof
Mihajlovic
Roy Keane
Rijkaard
~ Please add to the spit list.
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