[Rangers1]

Has anybody played yet?

Are the rosters right?

Are the rules right?

Did they spend time on making MLS realistic?

Thanks.

[DutchFootballRulez]

i just got it and i haven't checked yet

[mellowjohnny]

Originally Posted by DutchFootballRulez

i just got it and i haven't checked yet

Well that really answers the question , way to rub it into the rest of us who havent got it yet

[DutchFootballRulez]

I'm sorry I didn't mean what I posted,[damned Enter key] I bought it. It hasn't arrived yet. I was slaloaming through the SI boards, looking for a post or two by a certain US poster.

[iansfavouritecopilot]

As RSL, I won my first 3 games:

Crew a) 6-4
Fire h) 4-0
Rapids a) 4-0

Read in to that what you will

Cleatus owns

[StrikerCW]

I never play the MLS in FM or WSM for that matter, might eventually try it.. don't think so though.

How does the draft work anyways?

[URwormfood]

Originally Posted by Rangers1

Has anybody played yet?

Are the rosters right?

Are the rules right?

Did they spend time on making MLS realistic?

Thanks.

Playing MLS in WSM06 for a few weeks now. Rosters are pretty much correct. Rules are kinda. Trying to remember... I think my budget was 250,000 to start...but as you go through the seasons and gain cash you get more money to spend in the next season. Reserves are the same when you start your first season. I really cant compare to any other FM games seeing this is the first time I have played the game. I dont know if FM is different then WSM? I can say I have become a bit addicted....

~worm~

[Theo]

Originally Posted by URwormfood

Playing MLS in WSM06 for a few weeks now. Rosters are pretty much correct. Rules are kinda. Trying to remember... I think my budget was 250,000 to start...but as you go through the seasons and gain cash you get more money to spend in the next season. Reserves are the same when you start your first season. I really cant compare to any other FM games seeing this is the first time I have played the game. I dont know if FM is different then WSM? I can say I have become a bit addicted....

~worm~

YES IT IS VERY ADDICTIVE! i started on WWSM 2005. FM and WWSM are the same thing, just titled for different regions.

Haven't played the 2006 version yet - but glad that MLS sounds more realistic this time around. 2005 didn't have reserve rosters and didn't have the expansion teams...and if you had the data update, you were starting the 2004 season with the 2005 rosters...ah, oh well, i have stuck to the French and Italian leagues so far, with one very bad spell in MLS with DC United...what a great, great game...

[superdave]

Just finished the first season, where the Metrostars beat Chivas to win the MLS Cup. San Jose was awful, Albright was the best player in the league. Jaime Moreno wasn't good enough to start; I had a hard time believing it, but by the end of the year I realized he wasn't as good as Filemino, Esky, or Walker. Matt Nickell is about as good as Jaime.

What makes the poor talent assessment inexcusable is that I was playing the 2005 season, not the 2006 season. So at least half the real season was in the bag when the MLS assessors were sending in the attributes. So there's not much of an excuse for having Moreno, who in 2004 was a legit MVP candidate and who in 2005 was very, very good, be a mediocrity. That's just one example. Nick van Sicklen, I finally realized, is better than Gros. And that's just on DC; I wonder what f'ups there are on the other teams.

I mean, if West Ham's Benayoun is underrated in the game (or overrated, for that matter), at least there's a reason for it. They were just guessing. But the MLS guys weren't just guessing.

The team talk feature, I'm not thrilled with. I'm coaching DCU, and in the 2nd leg of my first round playoff, with a 2 goal lead in the match and aggregate, I told the guys not to let down in the 2nd half. I pissed off half the team. Two guys mouthed off to the media. Pretty stupid.

I've never been a fan of the "man management" part of CM. IRL, you know the players so you can make a good guess which players respond to butt kickings and which ones respond to reassurance. But there are no clues in CM. That's one of the features they added because a bunch of halfwits demanded it for "realism," not realizing that a computer game can't be realistic about human emotions unless that's what the whole game is about.

I suggested at the SI boards that they use training feedback to give us clues on players' personality. No dice. It's just a half assed feature.

And while I'm ranting...OF COURSE the game was at its best with the with/without ball screens. It's just f'ing stupid that you can't tell a player I want you here on defense, and here in the attack. You can only tell them I want you here when the ball's in our half, and there when it's in their half. But that's irrespective of which team has the ball. As a result of this moronic flaw, the game is really biased toward 4 man backlines, because it's impossible to get wingbacks to play smart. (This was true with 03-04 as well.) And with the way it's set up now, it's even worse, because they run themselves to death, so you almost always have to sub for them. Which was obviously a problem as I was managing DC.

And the f'ing PK's!!!!!!!!!! I'm guessing that teams make PKs about 1/3 of the time. I lost the USOC on PKs, as DC missed all 4 and the other team made 2 of 4. That was normal.

Oh, one other thing...you have a transfer budget in MLS, but unlike when you're managing a Euro team, you lose it at the end of the year. It would have been nice if that was noted somewhere. See, Heath Pearce came in on loan and bookended with Albright to give LA a devastating, Brazil-like pair of fullbacks. So I figured they didn't have all the MLS rules right. Well, they don't understand allocations. IRL you don't lose an allocation if you don't use it. And there was no supplemental draft, which made half the trades offered to me retarded. Also, it's impossible to offer 1 thing from your team for 2 things from another team. I decided to unload Moreno, but I can't trade him for a "fill the roster" forward and a "fill the roster" defender. I can get one or the other. You can trade Moreno AND something for 1 thing from another team, but not Moreno for 2 things. Stupid stupid stupid.

Understandably, but still hilariously, when, for example, the Rapids score a goal in DC, the scorer runs over to the Rapids fans, and the stewards have to hold them back. I'm sure that's just part of the game script, but it's still funny, imagining several hundred crazed Rapid fans in RFK.

And finally, I d'l'd the patch, but it crashes the game before it starts because of some kind of font problem. I wonder how many of these problems would be fixed if the patch would f'ing work.

Overall, it's a big disappointment. I've adopted a "don't buy the first edition of a new CM (well, FM now)" policy because the first editions have been notoriously buggy or unbalanced. Let them fix the flaws, and I'll get the 2nd, clean edition. But man, I wonder how bad last year's game must have sucked. Cuz at least in MLS, this one sucks. And many of the problems I've seen transcend MLS.

[Theo]

Originally Posted by superdave

Overall, it's a big disappointment. I've adopted a "don't buy the first edition of a new CM (well, FM now)" policy because the first editions have been notoriously buggy or unbalanced. Let them fix the flaws, and I'll get the 2nd, clean edition. But man, I wonder how bad last year's game must have sucked. Cuz at least in MLS, this one sucks. And many of the problems I've seen transcend MLS.

This is good advice...I've decided to wait on FM2006 for awhile. I really enjoy the 2005 overall edition overall, but MLS was pretty shaky. The player evals were just off, and it sounds like from your experience that this hasn't changed much. Moreno was extremely ordinary on 2005, most of the rest of DC was totally useless.