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18 Dec 2002, 01:36 PM
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South America Grand Theft Issue
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18 Dec 2002, 01:53 PM
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SA should have get 5 spots, but that's not an option. So I go for option 2, basically the same as option 3, just that I don't give a sh!t about Asia and Africa. But probably Africa should get more spots than Asia... they play WAY better soccer.
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18 Dec 2002, 01:58 PM
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Hey.....eventhough Hawaii is a USA state....they look like they can come up with a soccer team for 2006 and compete in their own....
Why not giving them a free ticket too and take one away from Europe.....? We don't really need Spain in the world cup right?
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18 Dec 2002, 02:14 PM
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Other than Brazil, South American teams didn't perform very well at the last world cup. It seem that South American football has declined due to the state of economic ruin in many of the countries. It seems like a lot of the leagues are on the verge of labor strikes. That can't be good for player morale or development. South America will have their chance to win back the spot. You can only cash in on past success for so long. The state of things as they are now is what matters. Personally I think it's BS that Oceania got a spot at South America's expense, but I'm just pointing out the other side of the argument.
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18 Dec 2002, 02:17 PM
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How's Ian Parrot doing?
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18 Dec 2002, 02:25 PM
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No, SA should have 5.5, Australia 0.5, CONCACAF 3.5, Asia 2.5...they should play each other for 2 spots
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18 Dec 2002, 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by cosmosRIP
No, SA should have 5.5, Australia 0.5, CONCACAF 3.5, Asia 2.5...they should play each other for 2 spots
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SA 5.5? That's saying 6. Even I should say that it would be a little too much.
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18 Dec 2002, 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by cosmosRIP
No, SA should have 5.5, Australia 0.5, CONCACAF 3.5, Asia 2.5...they should play each other for 2 spots
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No,SA should have 5, Oceania should have 0.5, Africa should have 4.5, Asia should have 2.5 and CONCACAF should have 3.5 with the Oceania half winner playing the CONCACAF half winner and the Africa half winner playing the Asia half winner for the final 2 spots into the World Cup Proper
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18 Dec 2002, 10:01 PM
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Most Australian soccer fans whilst happy Oceania have been awarded a spot feel it somewhat a hollow victory. In the past WC qualifying campaigns we have fallen down in the 2 big games we compete each 4 years because most of our best players don't show up for the previous matches (a large reason for this being denial to be released by their European clubs), and as a result our team lacks cohesion compared to the opposition who, as in the case with Uruguay, had had 18 months together.
In the '98 WCQ, Australia did not lose a match in its qualification process yet failed to make the WC. In '02 WCQ, we lost once, what we lack is adequate competitive matches in the WCQ. This decision has not helped us in that regard. At our best, Australia can compete with any nations and hold our heads high to a certain degree.
Most Australians would have preferred Oceania merged with Asia, but this has not happened. It's not an open and shut case that Australia will get there, NZ and Australia have an intense rivalry on the sporting field and they love nothing better than beating us, I'm not discounting NZ being in Germany in '06.
BTW, I disagree with the disagree with the decsion to give CONMEBOL 4 spots, they deserve at least 5.
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19 Dec 2002, 01:20 AM
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South America Grand Theft Issue
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Originally posted by Crazy_Yank
South America will have their chance to win back the spot. You can only cash in on past success for so long.
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Past sucess? Like getting 4 out of 5 teams to the second round in France 98? Or winning the WC this year?
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