[SportBoy333]

Here is where I would place them. Bayren Munich I think is the biggest European club that doesnt play in one of the top 3 leagues(England, Italy,Spain.). I would say Lyon are right behind them as the 2nd biggest club that doesnt play in one of the top 3 leagues. I think Lyon right now are bigger than all of the other German clubs except Bayren. If you look at the German teams in the Champions League clearly Lyon would be favored over Shalke if they played them and we all know what happened when they played Werder Bremen last year.
Now obviouly things and times change. 5 years ago you would say Borussia Dortmund are a bigger club than Lyon. 10 years ago you'd say Marseille and Ajax are biggers clubs than Lyon but we are talking about right now here in 2005.
Lyon are a bigger club right now than any club in Portugal, Scotland, Holland, Greece, Turkey, Russia,etc. I think its easy to define where Lyon's place is in Europe right now. 5-10 years from now things may change. Hamburg, Hertha Berlin or PSG could be a bigger club than Lyon at that time. Who knows. It depends on if Lyon can keep making the Champions League and where they finish in the league standings and what other teams in other leagues do but right now we know where Lyon stands.

[mofo4life]

These would be my rankings:

1. AC Milan
2. Chelsea
3. Barcelona
4. Juventus
5. Real Madrid
6. Bayern
7. Lyon
8. Inter
9. Man U
10. Liverpool

[sl7vk]

Top 10-

1)AC Milan
2)Chelsea
3)Juventus
4)Barcelona
5)Lyon
6)Real Madrid
7)Liverpool
8)Bayern
9)Porto
10)PSV

[glennaldo_sf]

Originally Posted by SportBoy333

Here is where I would place them. Bayren Munich I think is the biggest European club that doesnt play in one of the top 3 leagues(England, Italy,Spain.). I would say Lyon are right behind them as the 2nd biggest club that doesnt play in one of the top 3 leagues.

As a neutral - I would say that Lyon, Munich, Ajax, Porto, and maybe PSV are the three biggest teams that play outside of the top 3 leagues. I'd say Bayern being the biggest out of those five. Kind of hard to chose between the other 4.

[ECMoney]

Originally Posted by sl7vk

Top 10-

1)AC Milan
2)Chelsea
3)Juventus
4)Barcelona
5)Lyon
6)Real Madrid
7)Liverpool
8)Bayern
9)Porto
10)PSV

ummmm.......Where is Inter-Milan?

[sl7vk]

Originally Posted by ECMoney

ummmm.......Where is Inter-Milan?

Where they belong.

[ECMoney]

Originally Posted by sl7vk

Where they belong.

I hope you are kidding

They definitely rank higher than Porto, Liverpool, PSV, Lyon, and probably even Bayern.

The only teams I have rated higher than Inter are:

Chelsea
Juve
Milan
Barcelona

Inter would come #5 or #6 no doubt

[rapscallion]

Originally Posted by mofo4life

These would be my rankings:

1. AC Milan
2. Chelsea
3. Barcelona
4. Juventus
5. Real Madrid
6. Bayern
7. Lyon
8. Inter
9. Man U
10. Liverpool

Are we talking about biggest or best? I don't really see how AC Milan could be considered the top team in the world right now in terms of on-the-field results. Here are the best teams in the world:

1. Chelsea
2. Barcelona
3. Bayern Munich
4. Juventus
5. A.C. Milan
6. Lyon
7. Real Madrid
8. Manchester United
9. Inter Milan
10. Arsenal

The most high-profile team:

1. Real Madrid
2. Manchester United
3. A.C. Milan
4. Barcelona
5. Juventus
6. Chelsea
7. Liverpool
8. Bayern Munich
9. Arsenal
10. Inter Milan

[sl7vk]

Originally Posted by ECMoney

I hope you are kidding

They definitely rank higher than Porto, Liverpool, PSV, Lyon, and probably even Bayern.

The only teams I have rated higher than Inter are:

Chelsea
Juve
Milan
Barcelona

Inter would come #5 or #6 no doubt

How on earth do you rank Inter higher than Lyon?
As for AC Milan being ranked too high... The season is still young people. You can't just take a look at the Standings and make conclusions. If so, you should through Charlton on you top 5.

[rapscallion]

Originally Posted by sl7vk

How on earth do you rank Inter higher than Lyon?
As for AC Milan being ranked too high... The season is still young people. You can't just take a look at the Standings and make conclusions. If so, you should through Charlton on you top 5.

Well, they didn't win any trophies last season either, and they suffered perhaps the most epic collapse in CL history. They also nearly lost to PSV in a home-and-away series in which they were severely outplayed for 3 halves.