Stats on Americans in Europe

Discussion in 'Statistics and Analysis' started by numerista, Aug 11, 2005.

  1. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    As far as I know, this list includes every American who has played in the Bundesliga. Corrections are welcome (source: fussballdaten.de).

    APPEARANCES

    *Thomas Dooley 199
    Steve Cherundolo 94
    Tony Sanneh 77
    Claudio Reyna 74
    Eric Wynalda 54
    Conor Casey 32
    *David Regis 30
    David Wagner 30
    Cory Gibbs 25
    Gregg Berhalter 23
    Chad Deering 21
    Jovan Kirovski 20
    Clint Mathis 20
    Frankie Hejduk 19
    Kasey Keller 18
    Paul Caligiuri 15
    Michael Mason 11
    Landon Donovan 7
    John Doyle 7
    Peter Woodring 6
    Matthew Okoh 2
    John van Buskirk 1

    *Naturalized after start of Bundesliga career

    GOALS

    Dooley 20
    Wynalda 9
    Reyna 6
    Mathis, Regis, Sanneh 5
    Casey 3
    Cherundolo, Mason, Wagner 2
    Hejduk, Kirovski, Gibbs 1

    ASSISTS (counted since 1998/99)

    Cherundolo 8
    Sanneh 3
    Casey, Gibbs, Mathis, Reyna 2
    Berhalter, Donovan 1
     
  2. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Turns out this can be looked up (tediously) at premierleague.com ... minor correction to Friedel's number.

    APPEARANCES

    Kasey Keller 188
    Brad Friedel 172
    Roy Wegerle 75
    Claudio Reyna 67
    Brian McBride 55
    Joe-Max Moore 52
    Preki 46
    Tim Howard 44
    Carlos Bocanegra 43
    John Harkes 43
    Jurgen Sommer 33
    Jovan Kirovski 23
    Cobi Jones 21
    Ian Feuer 5
    Jemal Johnson 3
    Jonathan Spector 3
    Jimmy Crawford 2
    Eddie Lewis 1

    GOALS

    McBride 15
    Wegerle 13
    Moore 8
    Reyna 6
    Preki 4
    Harkes, Jones, Kirovski 2
    Bocanegra, Friedel 1
     
  3. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Oops ... ended up editing my Premiership post instead of replying to it. Data includes all league matches from 92-93 on ... ignores players like Potts and Rachubka who decided not to play for the US ... my main source was http://geocities.com/fapremleague, with 2004/05 data pulled from Yahoo.

    Incidentally, I don't think there were many American EPL players before 92-93. Harkes had one season, and Wegerle had a few, but iirc wasn't an American at the time.

     
  4. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
    There were two guys from the 1930 WC team, Alexander Wood and James Brown, who may have played in the first division in the 1930's....Brown was with Brentford in the 1935-36 season, and Wood played a few years with Leicester City.
     
  5. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    I'm not aware of many US players in most of the other top European leagues ...

    Serie A
    http://www2.raisport.rai.it/mcalcio/956a/c00072.htm
    Lalas 33 games, 2 goals, 2 own goals

    La Liga Española
    http://es.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/4984.html
    Keller 51 games, 0 goals

    Ligue 1
    Regis 245 games, 3 goals
    Vanney 49 games, 0 goals

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    Eredivisie (vi.nl)

    Appearances

    Earnie Stewart 357
    John O'Brien 85
    Gregg Berhalter 66
    Damarcus Beasley 29
    Cory Gibbs 15
    Charles Kazlauskas 11

    Goals

    Stewart 94
    Beasley 6
    O'Brien 5
    Berhalter 2
    Gibbs 1
     
  6. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A couple other early Yanks Abroad:

    Eddy Hamel: 125 games, 8 goals for Ajax from 1922-1930.

    Ed McIlvenny, of the 1950 World Cup team: 2 games for Manchester United in 1950-51.
     
  7. capitalist

    capitalist New Member

    Nov 13, 2004
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to numerista again.
     
  8. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Pulled some info from here, found it interesting ... (apologies for the format)
    http://stats.premierleague.com/

    Season # of Americans - Rank # of English
    92/3 1 - T18th 391
    93/4 1 - T19th 385
    94/5 2 - T16th 372 * last season w/ 22 teams
    95/6 1 - T25th 355 * first season w/ 20 teams
    96/7 2 - T21st 358
    97/8 3 - T20th 328
    98/9 2 - T23rd 309
    99/0 4 - T19th 308
    00/1 2 - T27th 292
    01/2 9 - T13th 262
    02/3 6 - T15th 260
    03/4 9 - T8th 237
    04/5 8 - 14th 239
    05/6 8 - T11th 209
     
  9. NoSix

    NoSix Member+

    Feb 18, 2002
    Phoenix
    But your list above for this season only shows 7 - quick trivia question - who's the 8th American? ;)
     
  10. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Good question ... my guess is Zak Whitbread, who has since gone to Millwall on loan, although David Yelldell and Kenny Cooper seem like other possibilities.

    For really hard trivia, I'd be very impressed if someone could name the nine players from 2001/02. With work, I got up to seven, only one of whom played significant minutes that year.

    [RESULT]
    Jeff Cassar - Bolton (loan)
    Ian Feuer - Derby County (loan)
    Brad Friedel - Blackburn
    Marcus Hahnemann - Fulham
    Kasey Keller - Spurs
    Eddie Lewis - Fulham
    Joe-Max Moore - Everton[/RESULT]
     
  11. NoSix

    NoSix Member+

    Feb 18, 2002
    Phoenix
    This year's "8th man" appears to be Cooper - though he never appeared for MU's first team.
     
  12. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
    Claudio Reyna played for Sunderland in 2001-02 (bought from Rangers at midseason).

    Any chance the ninth "American" was Paul Rachubka?
     
  13. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Oops.:D

    Could be, in which case he and Joe-Max were the only EPL Americans in 2000/01.

    Along the same lines, soccerbase.com lists Boaz Myhill as having begun his Aston Villa career at the start of the 2001/02 season. Presumably, one of them was counted as American, the other wasn't. (Neither got into a game.) Either way, it looks like 6 of 9 were goalkeepers.
     
  14. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Whitbread played in the Champions League qualifiers, so I'd imagine it's him.
     
  15. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Updating through 2005-06...

    Eredivisie (vi.nl)

    Appearances

    Earnie Stewart 357
    John O'Brien 88
    Gregg Berhalter 66
    Damarcus Beasley 56 (18 starts, 9 sub-ins in 05-06)
    Cory Gibbs 20
    Charles Kazlauskas 11
    Michael Bradley 1
    Lee Nguyen 1

    Goals

    Stewart 94
    Beasley 10
    O'Brien 5
    Berhalter 2
    Gibbs 1
     
  16. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Premiership (1992/93 - 2005/06)

    APPEARANCES

    Brad Friedel 210
    Kasey Keller 188
    Brian McBride 93
    Claudio Reyna 89
    Roy Wegerle 75
    Carlos Bocanegra 64
    Joe-Max Moore 52
    Preki 46
    Tim Howard 45
    John Harkes 43
    Jurgen Sommer 33
    Jonathan Spector 23
    Jovan Kirovski 23
    Cobi Jones 21
    Ian Feuer 5
    Giuseppe Rossi 5
    Jemal Johnson 5
    Jimmy Crawford 2
    Eddie Lewis 1

    GOALS

    McBride 24
    Wegerle 13
    Moore 8
    Reyna 7
    Preki 4
    Harkes, Jones, Kirovski, Bocanegra 2
    Rossi, Friedel 1
     
  17. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Bundesliga

    Appearances

    *Thomas Dooley 199
    Steve Cherundolo 116
    Tony Sanneh 77
    Claudio Reyna 74
    Eric Wynalda 54
    Kasey Keller 50
    Conor Casey 42
    *David Regis 30
    David Wagner 30
    Cory Gibbs 25
    Gregg Berhalter 23
    Chad Deering 21
    Jovan Kirovski 20
    Clint Mathis 20
    Frankie Hejduk 19
    Paul Caligiuri 15
    Michael Mason 11
    Landon Donovan 7
    John Doyle 7
    Peter Woodring 6
    Matthew Okoh 2
    John van Buskirk 1

    *Received citizenship after start of Bundesliga career

    Goals

    Dooley 20
    Wynalda 9
    Reyna 6
    Mathis, Regis, Sanneh 5
    Conor Casey 4
    Cherundolo 3
    Mason, Wagner 2
    Hejduk, Kirovski, Gibbs 1

    Assists (counted since 1998/99)

    Cherundolo 9
    Sanneh, Conor Casey 3
    Gibbs, Mathis, Reyna 2
    Berhalter, Donovan 1
     
  18. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    At the moment, we're approaching the end of a sort of Golden Age. The five US-raised players with the most top-flight appearances are all currently in top-flight leagues ... but not for too much longer.

    Career Appearances in Top Six Leagues
    (*raised outside the US)​


    *Earnie Stewart 357
    Kasey Keller 289
    *David Regis 275
    Brad Friedel 210
    *Thomas Dooley 199
    Claudio Reyna 166
    Steve Cherundolo 116
    Brian McBride 93
    Gregg Berhalter 89
    John O'Brien 88
    Tony Sanneh 77
    *Roy Wegerle 75
    Carlos Bocanegra 64
    Damarcus Beasley 56
    Eric Wynalda 54
    Joe-Max Moore 52
    Greg Vanney 49
    *Preki 46
    Tim Howard 45
    Cory Gibbs 45
    John Harkes 43
    Jovan Kirovski 43
    Conor Casey 42
    Alexi Lalas 33
    Jurgen Sommer 33
    David Wagner 30
    Jonathan Spector 23
    Cobi Jones 21
    Chad Deering 21
    Clint Mathis 20
    Frankie Hejduk 19
    Paul Caligiuri 15

    Note 1: this is missing pre-EPL stats for England.
    Note 2: top six leagues are the first divisions of England, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, and Spain
     
  19. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember that Espen Baardsen started for Everton in McBride's first game there. I'm not sure whether Baardsen should count, but he was born and raised here and was even in our youth player pools briefly.
     
  20. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Updated using Soccernet.com data (couldn't find it on the EPL site):

    1992/3 - 2006/7

    Code:
              		Games	Goals
    1	Brad Friedel	248	1
    2	Kasey Keller	188	0
    3	Brian McBride	131	33
    4	Claudio Reyna	104	7
    5	C. Bocanegra	94	7
    6	Tim Howard	81	0
    7	Roy Wegerle	75	13
    8	Joe-Max Moore	52	8
    9	J. Spector	48	0
    10	Preki   	46	4
    11	John Harkes	43	2
    12	M. Hahnemann	38	0
    13	Jay DeMerit	33	2
    13	Juergen Sommer	33	0
    15	Jovan Kirovski	23	2
    16	Cobi Jones	21	2
    17	D. Beasley	18	3
    18	Oguchi Onyewu	12	0
    19	Clint Dempsey	10	1
    20	Bobby Convey	9	0
    21	Ian Feuer	5	0
    21	Jemal Johnson	5	0
    23	Eddie Lewis	1	0
    23	Johann Smith	1	0
    
    Quasi-YAs:
    
    xx	Giuseppe Rossi	16	1
    xx	Jimmy Crawford	2	0
    xx	Paul Rachubka	1	0
    
     
  21. ENB Sports

    ENB Sports Member

    Feb 5, 2007
    US Players in Italy - http://www.rsssf.com/players/usa-players-in-it.html

    Alfio Argentieri I
    Born in New York 12.4.1914 midfield
    1940-41 Cavese Cava de? Tirreni III
    1944 Alba Roma (War Championship) 13/3

    Armando Frigo
    Born in Clinton 5.8.1917 midfield
    Brooklyn Wanderers New York
    1935-36 Vicenza III
    1936-37 Vicenza III
    1937-38 Vicenza III
    1938-39 Vicenza III
    1939-40 Fiorentina Firenze 21/5
    1940-41 Fiorentina Firenze 10/-
    1941-42 Fiorentina Firenze 12/1
    1942-43 Spezia II 6/-

    Panayotis "Alexi" Lalas
    Born in Birmimgham (Alabama) 1.6.1970 defender
    1987 Cranbook Kansas
    1988-89 Rutgers University
    1992 Usa Olympic Team
    1993-94 Usa A Team
    1994-95 Padova 33/2
    1995-96 Padova 11/-
    1996 New England Revolution 25/1
    1997 Emelec Quito (Ecuador) 4/-
    New England Revolution 30/2
    1998 New England Revolution
    New York Metrostars
    1999 Kansas City Wizards

    Roy Lassiter
    Born in Washington 9.3.1969 forward
    1991-92 North Carolina St.
    1992-93 Turrialba
    1993-94 Carmelita (Costa Rica)
    1996 Tampa Bay Mutiny 30/27
    1996-97 Genoa Genova II 2/-
    1997 Tampa Bay Mutiny
    1998 Tampa Bay Mutiny
    1999 Washington DC United

    Alfonso Negro
    Born in New York 27.6.1915 midfield
    1933-34 Catanzarese Catanzaro II
    1934-35 Fiorentina Firenze 3/-
    1935-36 Fiorentina Firenze 3/1
    1936-37 Fiorentina Firenze 21/2
    1937-38 Fiorentina Firenze 24/2
    1938-39 Napoli 13/3
    1939-40 Napoli 9/-

    Umberto Piccolo
    Born in Diamondville 6.9.1915 goalkeeper
    1939-40 Schio III
     
  22. Japperant

    Japperant New Member

    Aug 14, 2007
    Groningen, Holland
    Stats of the US player with most matches in Europe, Earnest Stewart. Btw, he's currently technical director at my favourite club, NAC Breda.

    SEIZOEN CLUB DIVISIE WEDSTRIJDEN GOALS GEM. TRANSFERPRIJS
    1988/'89 VVV (Ned1) 27 3 0,11
    1989/'90 VVV (Ned2) 35 12 0,34
    1990/'91 Willem II (Ned1) 33 17 0,52
    1991/'92 Willem II (Ned1) 33 8 0,24
    1992/'93 Willem II (Ned1) 22 4 0,18
    1993/'94 Willem II (Ned1) 32 7 0,22
    1994/'95 Willem II (Ned1) 32 10 0,31
    1995/'96 Willem II (Ned1) 18 3 0,17
    1996/'97 NAC (Ned1) 28 9 0,32
    1997/'98 NAC (Ned1) 30 6 0,2
    1998/'99 NAC (Ned1) 28 7 0,25
    1999/2000 NAC (Ned2) 29 8 0,28
    2000/2001 NAC (Ned1) 28 8 0,29
    2001/2002 NAC (Ned1) 31 10 0,32
    2002/2003 NAC (Ned1) 15 2 0,13
    2003 DC United (VSt1) * *
    TOTAAL 318 86 0,27
     
  23. pablo85

    pablo85 Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    John O'brien could be a good one, he was good when he played at Ajax Amsterdam, but I feel sorry for him that he is made of glass.
    Where does he play now??
     
  24. Japperant

    Japperant New Member

    Aug 14, 2007
    Groningen, Holland
    Well, I think that he played at Sparta Rotterdam after he quit Ajax Amsterdam. I honestly dont know where he plays atm.
     
  25. OrangeArsenal

    OrangeArsenal Member

    Jul 25, 2007
    D.C.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He played for Chivas USA last year. He isn't playing anywhere right now.
     

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