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03 Nov 2002, 03:31 PM
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Fire Holger, Hire Yallop
I've never been impressed with Osieck. In any other country he would have been kicked to the curb for Canada's failed WC 2002 qualification process. He seems to ignore North American based players in favor of marginal Scotland based players. Fenwick over Titus? WTF?? Yallop on the other hand is an outstanding coach who is familar with the North American game. Yallop played in Europe and has 60 or so caps for Canada so he has international experience. Why ignore a quality canuck in favor of a mediocre German?
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03 Nov 2002, 05:01 PM
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I'm sure that's all De Rosario needs - he finally gets Holger to start him ahead of European-based strikers, only for Holger to be replaced by Yallop, a guy who doesn't start him enough at the club level.
Holger's also our technical director & has completely overhauled our developmental system, which was badly needed & did so on the basis of his European experiences, which frankly no Canadian candidates had. He's not the greatest coach admittedly & I think he would have to go as head coach if he doesn't get us to the promised land for 2006, but during his tenure as national team coach we have seen the Canadian team transformed from a slow, defensive-minded squad (coached by a Canadian, I might add) that couldn't keep possession to an attack-minded youthful team that can stroke the ball around the field. And the reforms he instituted seem to be working as our youth teams consistently look more talented.
As for Yallop, I'd like to see how he continues in San Jose. If De Rosario isn't good enough to start on an MLS team one would think that MLS team must be championship material, but San Jose wasn't even close this year. It could be 2001 was a fluke, but I'll definitely be following his progress with interest.
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04 Nov 2002, 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Captain Canuck
As for Yallop, I'd like to see how he continues in San Jose. If De Rosario isn't good enough to start on an MLS team one would think that MLS team must be championship material, but San Jose wasn't even close this year. It could be 2001 was a fluke, but I'll definitely be following his progress with interest.
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The strikers playing ahead of him were better. Graziani was in the Ecuador national team recently, and is always good for at least 10 goals a season. Donovon is a proven talent.
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04 Nov 2002, 12:18 PM
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The strikers playing ahead of him were better. Graziani was in the Ecuador national team recently, and is always good for at least 10 goals a season. Donovon is a proven talent.
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I'm not sure about Graziani being better than Dwayne (he didn't make either Ecuador's World Cup or Gold Cup teams this year) but even so, I'd put all three on the field. Play Donovan as an attacking midfielder behind the other two. If San Jose's strength's lie in their depth up front then I say utilize that depth.
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04 Nov 2002, 07:25 PM
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He's trying to impede on Canada's progress to keep the US firmly in the qualification zone :P.
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04 Nov 2002, 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy_Yank
I've never been impressed with Osieck. In any other country he would have been kicked to the curb for Canada's failed WC 2002 qualification process. He seems to ignore North American based players in favor of marginal Scotland based players. Fenwick over Titus? WTF?? Yallop on the other hand is an outstanding coach who is familar with the North American game. Yallop played in Europe and has 60 or so caps for Canada so he has international experience. Why ignore a quality canuck in favor of a mediocre German?
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The last time NA players played an important role on a WC team, we imploded for France 98. Foreign coaches (Osieck, Waiters, Twamley) have tended to bring more sucess to Canadian Soccer tha domestic coaches. Lennarduzzi was given two World Cups to prove himself and he failed. Plus, Yallop has too much of a link to The Duze that would make him an effective coach.
Holger also pics NA players, the best that I might add.
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05 Nov 2002, 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by Daniel from Montréal
He's trying to impede on Canada's progress to keep the US firmly in the qualification zone :P.
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Dammit, you found me out. No bonus from the USSF for me
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06 Nov 2002, 12:25 AM
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It is frustrating to watch DeRo playing in games. He can be brillently one second to dribble over three defenders, but then next second he would give a very bad pass that could be easily a goal to tap in. One second he would score a lazer from 30 yards, then next second he would flap in front of goal with no one to beat. He needs to improve on his inconsistence and remember once a while he needs to lift his head to see where teammates are.
He still has good potential though. But when you guys have that 19 years old kid--Barlotti or something, you will forget DeRo who.
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06 Nov 2002, 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by Shaster
It is frustrating to watch DeRo playing in games. He can be brillently one second to dribble over three defenders, but then next second he would give a very bad pass that could be easily a goal to tap in. One second he would score a lazer from 30 yards, then next second he would flap in front of goal with no one to beat. He needs to improve on his inconsistence and remember once a while he needs to lift his head to see where teammates are.
He still has good potential though. But when you guys have that 19 years old kid--Barlotti or something, you will forget DeRo who.
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06 Nov 2002, 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by TopDogg
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I'm guessing Wyn Belotte.
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