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Old 10 Jan 2006, 09:38 PM   #91
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USA FOOTBALL I am well aware of those rules but you stated that its not easy to get a WP but it is easy. except in england yes there are limits on Non-EU players but if Caliguri needs the fire power there is nothing to stop them from signing Ruiz. They simply sign him then release the other player not uncommon in euro soccer. You make it seem that NO team would try and put Ruiz on there squad cause of those rules. but the fact remains that if the player is good the clubs WILL find a way to put that player on the squad. The only place that this cant happen is in England cause of there strict WP rules. England is harder to get a WP than Italy simply because You must play in 75% of your nations matches plus that nation must be ranked no less than 75th by FIFA. While in italy if the club has the open slot they simply sign the player and that's that. I am also aware of the Dutch WP rules and no I don't think Parke would cut there maybe Bradley in a few years but surely not Parke. I was using that to show that playing in MLS is a good springboard for young players. But that being said Bradley was going to be offered a 400,000
a year deal until Heerenveen balk at the possible transfer fee.
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Old 11 Jan 2006, 09:34 AM   #92
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In order to get a work permit you need an employer sponsoring you for residency, so you need a contract offer. Contract offers are extremely difficult for non-EU players to procure based on the previous statements, which you seemingly agree with. You're mincing words here.

Bottom line is simple: no EU passport and the player is at a huge disadvantage garnering a contract in the big Euro leagues. Clubs can't do what MLS does and just simply cut a player to make space. Euro contracts are guaranteed and therefore must be mutually terminated or sold to make space. This is not an easy or quick process given the fact that it all has to be done within a 5 week window twice a year. Finding a guy a technical director likes may not be hard. Finding a willing taker at the right place for the player that said club needs to move is often much harder. Further, what happens in the common event that the weaker links on the pitch are not the foreign players but the domestic ones? In that situation, by moving one foreign player to sign another because that's the only way to bring in reinforcements, the club is net-net not where they want to be.

How does this relate back to Ruiz? Well, it just means that there's more to this than simply whether he's good enough to contribute at a high level. It's just not that simple!
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Old 13 Jan 2006, 08:00 PM   #93
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No news on Ruiz yet? What's the latest on his situation?
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Old 13 Jan 2006, 10:50 PM   #94
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We all want to know what happens but anthony you got to relax
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Old 13 Jan 2006, 11:11 PM   #95
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We all want to know what happens but anthony you got to relax
Yeah I guess I gotta relax, it's just that I dont have a tv in my dorm and my only mode of getting any news is the internet.

I see that you have Italy as your team. So im assuming that you're familiar with the Italian league. Do you want to see Ruiz in serie A? How do you think he wouldl fare? Do you think he would be well received?
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Old 13 Jan 2006, 11:31 PM   #96
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Yeah I guess I gotta relax, it's just that I dont have a tv in my dorm and my only mode of getting any news is the internet.

I see that you have Italy as your team. So im assuming that you're familiar with the Italian league. Do you want to see Ruiz in serie A? How do you think he wouldl fare? Do you think he would be well received?
if you want to look at tv for info your better off waitin on the internet there not saying much on tv either, except on centroamericatv on sundays at 11:00pm east coast time when deportivo guatevision comes on they'll have some updates on ruiz
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Old 14 Jan 2006, 12:44 AM   #97
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i think ruiz should play in europe and whatever happens
not to play in mexico!!!!!!
i mean pezzarosi's already in spain
http://www.prensalibre.com/pl/2006/enero/13/depor.html[/URL]
so pesca should do better or i think so,
el pando suks and thats sad
Hope he does better on Febuary 19 vs USA (friendly)
anyone got news on the fish?
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Old 14 Jan 2006, 07:18 PM   #98
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I don't...
but i wanted to ask you if there are a lot of chapines in Montreal??? I was there not too long ago. Just wondering, hit me back.
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i think ruiz should play in europe and whatever happens
not to play in mexico!!!!!!
i mean pezzarosi's already in spain
http://www.prensalibre.com/pl/2006/enero/13/depor.html[/URL]
so pesca should do better or i think so,
el pando suks and thats sad
Hope he does better on Febuary 19 vs USA (friendly)
anyone got news on the fish?
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 03:03 PM   #99
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Anthony I would be excited if Ruiz went to Italy i think that not only will he get better it will also make him realize that he has a long way he can improve.

It will teach him not to get pissed off as much as he is used to getting. I love Ruiz but I think that a move to Italy will be good for his personality and he will get less carded
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Anthony I would be excited if Ruiz went to Italy i think that not only will he get better it will also make him realize that he has a long way he can improve.

It will teach him not to get pissed off as much as he is used to getting. I love Ruiz but I think that a move to Italy will be good for his personality and he will get less carded

they way it looks right now is that MLS Has a the best offer, and Municipal is still shopping around for a buyer on ruiz full rights. A WC appearance would of helped him around august of this year

FC dallas GM supposedly said they have the best offer but who knows if thats true since they have a "Cap" and they are paying Eddie johnson a 800k a year and 2 other players around 200k so i find it hard to believe they are offering ruiz a 700k plus a year contract unless they trade a few players
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