The "Thoughts That Don't Require Their Own Thread" Thread II

No one in the Revs organization can even come to terms with the fact that we are, y'know, not making the playoffs.

 

I don’t think that’s the case at all. They know. They know this team is a wreck, that the organization is backwards, that all is not well in the state of One Patriots Place.

“They know that we know that they know they’re selling us a lemon,” The Magpie said to me back in ’06, “but it’s their job and they know we know that too.”

 

Espn had an article on supporter's groups focusing on the SOBs
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/ne...er-moms-league-hard-core-fan-groups-here-stay

 

Can't argue with success..!

Let's hope Soccer Moms en mass decide to stop going to MLS games...their kids will then want to go all the more..! =)

 

Timber's Army has raised $200,000?!! Holy crap.

 

Agreed, these stuck out as references to the Revs maybe?

Many clubs have found reconciling the new crowd with the old one to be a tricky proposition. Families have taken issue with some of the language used by the fan groups.

Hard-core fan groups regularly interact with their MLS clubs and have established good relationships, save for a few exceptions.

Although I don't think this is fair as I think our supporter's groups have good relationships with Revs? Or don't they anymore?

And from the Wow, I'm jealous dept:
MLS fan groups, by and large, get considerable input into their clubs. The Union adopted the SoB's blue for their own colors and then let SoB suggest changes and sign off on its own stands when PPL Park was built. "As they became more organized and relevant in the soccer world in Philadelphia," said Sakiewicz, "we felt it was smart to reach out to them and let them design their own section."

The Portland Timbers let their fan group, the several-thousand-strong Timbers Army, design its own stand in the refurbished Jeld-Wen Field and included it in discussions on stadium rules. When the club advertised ahead of its inaugural season, the Timbers opted to depict well-known Timbers Army members on their billboards. The Timbers killed the logo they originally designed for their MLS incarnation, after decades in other leagues, because the Army hated it. And at the Timbers' first home game in MLS, the front office opted to forgo a professional singer to perform the national anthem, but set up microphones in front of the Army sections and let the fans sing the anthem in unison on national television

 

Sigh....

And with all that going on, here in New England, our team is the equivalent of the company that made the finest quality buggy-whip in all the land about 100 years ago.

Some of us have been saying this since 1995, and while it's nice to hear people like former commish Doug Logan even admit that this is a good thing, revisionist history will always come back to bite you in the ass. People remember and you aren't fooling anyone by pretending.

 

When your EBT card covers all your grocery shopping at the convenience store, there's plenty left for supporter group activities and pot.

 

"Feed 'em shit and keep 'em in the dark." - The Departed

 

Maybe a divvy is a more appropriate name than a NNN?

Entertaining rant on negative Liverpool season ticket holders by another LFC fan:
http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2011/09/divvies-a-rant/

 

I haven't seen this posted yet but Dutch legend Edgar Davids trained with the Revs today

Davids is part of Ajax's advisory board maybe the Revs can build a relationship with that team and make some deals with them.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2011/09/28/legendary-dutch-midfielder-edgar-davids-trains-revs

 

New revenue stream, physical training for visiting athletes.

It's nice and what-have-you...but when the most newsworthy thing about this team lately is a golfer and a retired pro coming to train with the team for a single day...well...

 

What do you mean 'most noteworthy thing'? We're the only active Boston sports franchise without an embarrassing loss this week (you can't be embarrassed if no one is looking) and we stayed in the Playoff hunt longer than the Red Sox! It's time for celebrations in Foxborough. Contract extensions for everyone!!

 

I see your point, but really, when your tactics don't align with the strengths of your opponent and go down a goal after 4 minutes and then are down 3-0 (on almost the exact same plays) 30 minutes into the game, that's not an "embarassing loss" just because you managed to get 2 goals back to make the scoreline look close?

I said in another thread, who wants to bet that the Red Sox make more significant changes than the Revs do this off-season?

 

I could see it going both ways honestly.

The Revs will either continue coasting with no activity to speak of, or something on the order of the breakup of Pangaea will occur: new badge, new name, new stadium, new coach, new front office, new players.

The problem is that the chances of the latter are like 1 in 20 maybe, but it CAN and DOES happen in MLS.

The Red Sox might fire their coach and they'll probably sign about the same number of players they always do (in other words they'll be active on the player market), but they aren't going to be doing anything on that scale. No reason to do it.

 

I'm sure they will because they have embraced the concept of accountability in that organization from the owners on down.

 

I added numbers just to keep the particular points straight. Here's my take on how likely these are to happen this off season:

1) 50%
2) 0%
3) 0%
4) 0% -- as long as you don't count the usual stringing along that "we're fixin' to hopefully make an announcement about possible plans that may or may not occur in the next several years" kind of public statement
5) 33%
6) 25% chance that they can Buns, 0% chance that they can Bilello, 10% chance that other changes are made in the FO to less significant figures
7) 100% -- they will definitely bring in some new players, other than the usual turnover of the bottom of the roster. They will bring in at least 2 players who make $250,000 or more, and if Shalrie leaves, make it 3. Will these guys be any good, or be able to stay healthy for the whole season? Your guess is as good as mine.

Unfortunately, what "happens in MLS" has very little correlation to what happens in Revoland. I think one of the biggest problems in this area among the people who think that "MLS is a crap league" is based on equating "MLS" with the Revs. It's a very different story in about 15 other cities.

 

Read some of the comments on the article - LOL

 

What are the chances they brought in Davids to take a look at him as a possible replacement for Shalrie.

Who's next? Figo?

On the positive side, this is better than trialing a golfer.

 

I think it is 0% on 5, in fact I wonder if he won 0 games if they would fire him...

FYP

 

Unlike the Revs, the Red Sox (and pretty much every other sports team on the planet, including the Patriots) understand that while a coach/manager may have served you well and gotten great results at one time, he is only as good as the team's recent results. It doesn't matter that Francona won the whole enchilada in 2007, that was a long time ago.

In fact, the Revs were a good team in 2007, winning the Open Cup and going to MLS Cup final. Yes, 2007 really was a long time ago.

Does Nicol get to keep his job forever just because the Krafts are too lazy, too indifferent, too incompetent to find a suitable replacement?

 

Martin Atkinson has what it takes to be a ref in MLS.