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Old 24 Mar 2005, 03:56 AM   #1
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Default Mexican feuds

After seeing the Hugo-Aguirre I was trying to note all the feuds Hugo has and kind of lost count and then I started thinking to get all the fueds in
the mexican league and started thinking to start listing the well known ones. Also so that people can start knowing where they start since I donīt know
why some happened and I donīt want to lose count like I did with eminem ( those anyone know why he fought with Chris Kirkpatrick and Limp Bizkit)

Hugo Sanchez

Hugo vs Lavolpe- started when Hugo scored chilenas and then cooled off until they fought in Atlante
Hugo vs Beenhaker- started in Real Madrid when he benched Hugo
Hugo vs Ruben Omar Romano- started when Ruben trashed him after Hugo elimated him in a liguilla because of his antilavolpe remarks
Hugo vs Mejia Baron- began when Mejia Baron didnīt send him against Bulgaria in 94.
Hugo vs Aguirre- apparently started when Aguirre was Mejia Baron assitant. I thought it cooled down but they said it didnīt.
Hugo vs Tomas Boy- Donīt know when this one started.
Hugo vs Jose Ramon- Its obvious why its happened but I donīt know when
Hugo vs Antonio Carlos Santos- when Santos went with Hugoīs ex
Hugo vs Maurer- donīt know when it started

Ricardo Lavolpe

Lavolpe vs Hugo
Lavolpe vs Lapuente- I know that Lapuente went on hard on Lavolpe but donīt know when it started.
Lavolpe vs Cuathemoc- started when they were players and they even fought in an Atlas-America game

There are more but Iīm not sure

Manuel Lapuente

Lapuente vs LAvolpe
LApuente vs Bora- huge criticism in the qualifiers by Lapuente
Lapuente vs Lebrija- started when Lebrija did everything to get him out and bring Meza
Lapuente vs Aguirre- donīt know when this started, got bigger because of criticism by Lapuente after 02.

Jose Ramon Fernandez

Jose Ramon vs everything televisa- probably when they fired him
Jose Ramon vs Hugo
JOse Ramon vs Orvaņanos- obviously when he left for Televisa
Jose Ramon vs Cuathemoc
Jose Ramon vs Carlos Albert- donīt know when this happened
Jose Ramon vs Lapuente- supposedly because he plays boring
Jose Ramon vs Denigris- when he didnīt think Luis Garcia did anything in Spain
Jose Ramon vs Antonio Garcia- Donīt know when it started
Jose Ramon vs Carrillo- when he went to America
Jose Ramon vs Perez Teuffer- when he became americaīs president although it was increased after the faitelson incident

Cuathemoc Blanco

Cuathemoc vs Lavolpe
Cuathemoc vs Jose RAmon
Cuathemoc vs Faitelson- since always, increased when he punched the guy
Cuathemoc vs Israel Lopez- when they had a fight in interliga and then in the airport
Cuathemoc vs David Oteo- started in a Pumas-America game
Cuathemoc vs Pepe Sanchez or something like that his coach in Valladolid- after he got benched

Others
Miguel Herrerra vs Mejia Baron- started after he got cut for Mexico 94.
Carlos Reinoso vs Turco Mohammed- started after a game where he called him fat and that he would fail the antidoping, cooled off
and then started in a San Luis- Queretaro
Codesal vs Orvaņanos- started because of his criticism and got so big that Raul left when Codesal came to La Jugada
Codesal vs Ramos Rizo


They are more but I will come up with them later or I donīt know them. I know that Tomas Boy has a couple of them. Cristobal Ortega
also has some. I forgot Burilloīs, Bernats (those are a bunch), Maurerīs ,etc.
So keep adding.
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Old 24 Mar 2005, 09:43 AM   #2
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Hugo vs Lavolpe- started when Hugo scored chilenas and then cooled off until they fought in Atlante

From the get go, La Volpe didnt want him on the team

Hugo vs Beenhaker- started in Real Madrid when he benched Hugo

What happened here is that Beenhaker wanted to bring in his own players. Hugo too also said that Beenhaker didnt believe much in the Mexican player because apparently of what happened when those 2 crossed paths in Spain

Hugo vs Ruben Omar Romano- started when Ruben trashed him after Hugo elimated him in a liguilla because of his antilavolpe remarks

This goes back to the Atlante days. Romano was the messenger the day La Volpe attacked Hugo in Austria. That is why Hugo doesnt care much for Lavolpe and other goons like Pepe Cruz, Wilson Graneolatti, Bueno, Cantu, Daniel Guzman, etc. Some he can tolerate but doesnt have full confidence. Take for example when Hugo tried to have the coaches meetings, Bueno and Herrera were basically resisting and seeing if Lavolpe could come.

Hugo vs Jose Ramon- Its obvious why its happened but I donīt know when

Around the time some channels were going to be privatized, TV Azteca was outbid on the rights to the National team, Chivas, Pumas. Hugo came back to Mexico and i guess to Jose Ramon, he thought Hugo should have been there promoting them.. and that wasnt the case... he didnt like it when Hugo went to America

Lavolpe vs Lapuente- I know that Lapuente went on hard on Lavolpe but donīt know when it started.

This is one of the reasons I cant stand La Volpe. La Volpe self announces himself as this mentor and mastermind (and has been for some years now) and reporters ask him about the fruits of lavolpismo and how it has only been 1 title...and the reporters use Lapuente to his 4 titles (before America). So its then when Lavolpe basically starts to thrash Lapuente and his style of play. Same with Hugo. They never had a problem and after the Chilena scored off Lavolpe... Lavolpe said that Mexico's golden child (he meant it as an insult) wouldnt ever score like that again.

Lavolpe vs Cuathemoc- started when they were players and they even fought in an Atlas-America game

THis started back when Lavolpe coached America. Blanco even said that Lavolpe would humilate the younger players like Lara, Villa, and himself

Cuathemoc vs Israel Lopez- when they had a fight in interliga and then in the airport

This goes back from 97-98. Lopez is a cheap shot and always has been. He goes unnoticed because he is a "quiet" player

here is quote from Blanco about Lopez from back in 1998

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"El enanito ese de dos metros y medio (sic, a Israel López de la UNAM) me quiso lastimar... No es que me hayan marcado bien. ŋ(David) Oteo? Es un naquito que les cargaba las maletas a Suárez y a Campos".
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i seriously doubt there's any rivalry between Hugo and Vaso Aguirre. just read this article: http://www.esto.com.mx/050324/fut_inter/7fut_inter.asp
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This goes back to the Atlante days. Romano was the messenger the day La Volpe attacked Hugo in Austria. That is why Hugo doesnt care much for Lavolpe and other goons like Pepe Cruz, Wilson Graneolatti, Bueno, Cantu, Daniel Guzman, etc. Some he can tolerate but doesnt have full confidence. Take for example when Hugo tried to have the coaches meetings, Bueno and Herrera were basically resisting and seeing if Lavolpe could come.

Yeah but unlike Romano there is no feud with them. People like Bueno and Herrerra havenīt attack Hugo and have said there is nothing against him. Something I hate about people of Tv Azteca is that they try to make them into Lavolpistas and Lavolpismo and to keep the feud at them. Whenver people like Bueno and Herrerra come, they try to start the fued and bring up Hugo and they have to say they have nothing against him yada yada. They alwasy try to make this people blind followers. I remember when Sergio Bueno came and he started saying that he was a lavolpista because of the path but that the guy who give him his chance and the guy he considered his true teacher was Ruben Omar Romano. They all were shocked that he wasnīt licking Lavolpeīs balls. Ruben Omar Romano was the same thing. Hugo and them even saluted themselves before that game. Then Romano totally trashed Hugo after the game. It was shown in La Jugada. Hugo respondend that week , started the feud and the people in Tv Azteca acted as if they hadnīt seen the footage at all. They all trashed Hugo for doing that against and innocent guy with a "wonderful" campaign in Libertadores right now. They still act that way till this day whenever Hugo trashes him for defending Lavolpe and calling him lameamigdalas.
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i seriously doubt there's any rivalry between Hugo and Vaso Aguirre. just read this article: http://www.esto.com.mx/050324/fut_inter/7fut_inter.asp
There used to be when Aguirre was assitant coach of Mejia Baron. I was sure it was over because of his support of el tri in 02 and probably Aguirre apologized. Itīs probably more amarrando navajas from Tv Azteca.
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Im waiting for the Hugo vs Hugo feud. Sooner or later he'll start punching himself. I know I would if I were him.
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The best Mexican feuds are from el Chavo del 8. With a list that includes the likes of Kiko, Don Ramon, Don Barrigas, and El Professor Girafales you cant go wrong. More smack talk and ass whopping went on there than all the feuds mentioned above.. .
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Im waiting for the Hugo vs Hugo feud. Sooner or later he'll start punching himself. I know I would if I were him.
I think you have other things to worry about.

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