(R) 1/25, Liverpool at Watford (Carling), Demerit (fer sure), Whitbread?

jri · 24 Jan 2005, 06:22 AM

Jay gets the sure start, and Zak could make the bench (Hyppia out for a bit w/hip injury)..

Biggest game of season (probably a few seasons) for Watford...

'Pool with terrible form lately, and will have to put Traore (he of the unbelievably bad own goal last week) and Pelligrino (sp?), who looked horrible on Saturday, in central defense. Chance for Watford to take advantage..

Watford supporters hoping 'Pool doesn't wake up for next 90 minutes. The difference in 'resumes' for the lineups is going to be astounding.

BTW, Watford down 0-1 already, so they need a goal just to 'even it up'.

jri · 24 Jan 2005, 10:24 AM

BBC lists Whitbread in the 20 (don't they usually just list 18?)...

FC Tallavana · 24 Jan 2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jri

BBC lists Whitbread in the 20 (don't they usually just list 18?)...

I've seen them list well above 20 for Manchester United. It basically means they don't have a clue.

Native Aztexan · 24 Jan 2005, 06:03 PM

Here's a Jay DeMerit article.

An American Soccer Player's Long Journey

U.S. soccer player Jay Demerit, left, trains with Watford teammate Hameur Bouazza ahead of Tuesday's League Cup Semi final 2nd leg soccer match against Liverpool at the Watford training ground, in Watford England Monday Jan. 24, 2005.(AP Photo Alan Cozzi)

jri · 25 Jan 2005, 07:08 AM

Well, a tremendous, exhiliarating 3 weeks wraps up for Jay today- the big game.

This will be Jay's 7th start in the last 22 days, and 4 games against Premiership teams (2 Fulham, 2 Liverpool), and 1 (away) against the #2 team in the Coca-Cola during that time.

To me at least, its been very impressive that he's kept such a high standard of play during this stretch- given he had hardly even played in 7 League games all year (over 4-5 months). And then to start 7 in a row, playing EVERY MINUTE........wow.

Lewington will have a fascinating decision after this game. The veteran Dyche will likely be back for the next game (Watford has 10 days off after this...time to rest). Does Jay continue to start/has he won the spot? Dyche is 33 years old.

Here's hoping Watford plays their guts out today, and here's hope Jay has something left and special for tonight (Jay may have been the only Watford player to play every minute these last 7 games).....

I'm still dreaming about his scoring a flying header off a corner or set piece late here...

shawfield · 25 Jan 2005, 08:54 AM

>Lewington will have a fascinating decision after this game. The veteran >Dyche will likely be back for the next game (Watford has 10 days off after >this...time to rest). Does Jay continue to start/has he won the spot? Dyche >is 33 years old.

I think the decision will be between keeping JD in the team & or leaving in Neil Cox to accompany club captain Sean Dyche when he returns from injury. Dyche is certain to be back in the team as he has been excellent since the Chelsea cup tie last season. Cox has struggled a little lately but we know that Lewington favours experience over raw talent. However, JD's extra pace 'could' possibly mean he gets the starting place.

He'll need the pace tonight against Baros & Morientes !

Wahoo · 25 Jan 2005, 09:28 AM

Out of curiosity I checked to see what happens if Watford were to win this game by 1 goal.

I found this on the CarlingCup website.
(c) In the Semi-Final ties, if the aggregate score is level at the end of the second game an extra half-hour shall be played. If the aggregate scores are still level at the end of extra time the tie shall be decided by goals scored away from home counting twice. If the teams remain equal after this procedure the tie shall be determined by the taking of kicks from the penalty mark in accordance with the Laws of Association Football.

I find it interesting that if the aggregate score is level after the 2nd match, they play 30 more minutes...
After that...then goals away applies...

So if Watford win today 2-1... they play 30 minutes.
If it's even after the extra 30 minutes, Liverpool wins???
Does that seem odd to anyone else?
Either way this one apparently won't be decided by penalty kicks.

jri · 25 Jan 2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wahoo

Out of curiosity I checked to see what happens if Watford were to win this game by 1 goal.

I found this on the CarlingCup website.
(c) In the Semi-Final ties, if the aggregate score is level at the end of the second game an extra half-hour shall be played. If the aggregate scores are still level at the end of extra time the tie shall be decided by goals scored away from home counting twice. If the teams remain equal after this procedure the tie shall be determined by the taking of kicks from the penalty mark in accordance with the Laws of Association Football.

I find it interesting that if the aggregate score is level after the 2nd match, they play 30 more minutes...
After that...then goals away applies...

So if Watford win today 2-1... they play 30 minutes.
If it's even after the extra 30 minutes, Liverpool wins???
Does that seem odd to anyone else?
Either way this one apparently won't be decided by penalty kicks.

No PKs if Watford wins 1-0, and its scoreless after 30?

I'd love to see the end of PKs personally, and have teams play until one scores. Take one player off each side every 10 minutes if need be (they can get down to 6 v 6 full field for all I care....at least they are playing- it is real competition) vs. PKs which are a joke and basically unfair (what does it have to do with the preceeding field time?)...

The lamest argument is: "Well, the players would be too tired for next match(es), etc. under that proposal". Well, there's your incentive TO AVOID A TIE and play for the win in regulation (more exciting!).