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03 Jan 2005, 06:34 PM
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World Cup 2006 Question
Well as many of us already know the WORLD CUP is mearly 18 months away... With all the venues and such already decided my question is about accomadations during the cup.
At the last 2 WC we have bought a house in the host nation and it has worked out really well since we have always picked a good point from where to travel from. USA was impossible to do this for. What I would like to know is what is the average price of a 3 bedroom house in a location that we can travel to most venues by car( which we will also purchase when arriving). Would staying in hotel be reasonable? House must be able to be sold after also no time restraints just so we know.
Ballpark would be great but I am sure there are some real estate agents from Germany that use this site ( I hope anyways ).
Thank you for your responces.
Ricardo
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03 Jan 2005, 06:45 PM
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Re: World Cup 2006 Question
You BOUGHT a house?????
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03 Jan 2005, 07:09 PM
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Re: World Cup 2006 Question
Well living in a hotel really sucks ass for a whole month... I already do that for 3 months of the year. This way we can have home cooked meals also, because we all know how much you crave some good arroz e feijao wherever you go.
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04 Jan 2005, 06:41 AM
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Re: World Cup 2006 Question
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Originally Posted by Ricardao
Well living in a hotel really sucks ass for a whole month... I already do that for 3 months of the year. This way we can have home cooked meals also, because we all know how much you crave some good arroz e feijao wherever you go.
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Buying (or building) a house in house in Germany is normally a life-long task as houses over here are very expensive. Not like in the USA where you can buy a wooden house for 50.000$ or less.
My advise would be to rent a flat either in North-Rhine Westphalia or Hanover. Both guarentee short ways to many WC matches.
Don't know for sure but as you want to rent for just one month and as it is World Cup time prices could be about 1000 Euro a month? But that really depends on what you're looking for. If you have a car I would advise to avoid downtowns or even rent outside the city, that makes it much easier to find a flat at a reasonable price.
Small map of Germany (Hanover in the middle, North-Rhine Westphalia where the black bordered square is):
http://www.schwatzgelb.com/fanservic...ap_germany.jpg
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04 Jan 2005, 09:22 AM
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Re: World Cup 2006 Question
I have a great idea!
I'll move out of my flat and join my parents for a month again and you can have my flat.
Of course I still need to convince my roomate to do the same but when I mention the money you'll give us for that time , I'm thinking about +/- 20.000 $, I'm sure she'll be okay with it.
Okay my psychopatic neighbour maybe would have some problems with you but please that shouldn't be a problem, just assure her that you'll take a look at her 40 animals living in her tiny flat and she'll love you forever.
So, do we have a deal??? Feel free to pm me!
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04 Jan 2005, 01:35 PM
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Re: World Cup 2006 Question
Man its tough to buy a house for less than 50,000 even in Brasil. I dont care about the $ amount I just want to have an idea of how much. Can you buy a 3 bedroom house for $150,000 Us money, in Hannover as it centrally located ( kinda ) to most venues.
What is a flat?
Or anybody have any good real estate links for Germany that are in English, I have found many but cant read a damn thing, I have been learning German at a night class so I dont go completely blind.
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04 Jan 2005, 02:15 PM
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Re: World Cup 2006 Question
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Originally Posted by Ricardao
Man its tough to buy a house for less than 50,000 even in Brasil. I dont care about the $ amount I just want to have an idea of how much. Can you buy a 3 bedroom house for $150,000 Us money, in Hannover as it centrally located ( kinda ) to most venues.
What is a flat?
Or anybody have any good real estate links for Germany that are in English, I have found many but cant read a damn thing, I have been learning German at a night class so I dont go completely blind.
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Pffff....don't know how much money you have at hand, but if you really want to buy an apartment (=flat), you can calculate with roughly 100.000 Euro or less. A house with garden would be 200.000+ Euro. Really rough guesses as it depends on so many factors.
Here are some apartments in Hanover-Bothfeld:
http://www.baubecon.de/bbc_db_verkau...nover-Bothfeld
Btw, I am still wondering whether you are serious or just fooling me....
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04 Jan 2005, 02:30 PM
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Re: World Cup 2006 Question
The cheapest areas would be in East Germany with Berlin or Leipzig being World Cup cities and centrally located. The North Rhein Westphalia would be the closest to the largest number of WC cities but is less convenient if you are going to be travelling to any of the games in the south, in particular Munich. The cities in West Germany have low vacancy rates and high rental prices where in the East there are very high vacancy rates so it would be much easier to get a place. Prices for buying houses tend to be high in both regions and doesn't seem to reflect rental prices so renting would probably be better. It might also be hard to resell a home in the east after the tournament. Halle which is a neighbouring city to Leipzig might be a good possibility as it would probably be cheap and is well connected by train or plane to many other cities. There are several other cities in the region you could consider that are well connected by rail and probably fairly cheap at least to rent if being in an actual WC city is not important to you. If you want to be in a WC city I think Leipzig is the best choice for rental price, availability, closeness to Berlin where the final is and accessability to other cities and is also a nice city with a lot of history.
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04 Jan 2005, 03:13 PM
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Re: World Cup 2006 Question
Thank you for the info and the link...
Fooling you? I asked a legitimate question and I thank you for your answer.
With rental properties are you allowed to rent for a one month period or must you sign a lease for longer? How are the local authorities when it comes to WC parties and such? Renting a flat will be the last resort as there are 6 of us going and we are sure to have visitors at the house steady ( always happens that way), and I am sure a flat will just cause grief for neighbors and such.
Thank you again for your time...
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04 Jan 2005, 05:46 PM
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Re: World Cup 2006 Question
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Originally Posted by Ricardao
With rental properties are you allowed to rent for a one month period or must you sign a lease for longer?
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Normal contracts are unlimetd with a cancelation period of 6 to 12 weeks. Means you would have to rent for at least 1.5 or 3 months. Of course if the owner accepts shorter terms, you can cut him down to 1 months or less, but that is unlikely IMHO.
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Originally Posted by Ricardao
How are the local authorities when it comes to WC parties and such?
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Depends on how you behave. As you are from Brazil let me say it this way: German authorities are normally a bit more over-correct and pedantic than in other countries. So if you want to buy a house make sure that you won't disturb neighbours. Btw, a small garden won't hurt either (grilling is one of Brazilian's hobbies, I've heard ;-).
Regarding cities Eastern Germany would be cheaper as Grizzly mentioned. But if you want to be in the middle of everything go for Hanover (well connected to major railroads and highways and somehow in the centre of Germany) or even better go for the Cologne/Düsseldorf area. Surely Cologne is not exactly in the middle of Germany but surely in the middle of the party on and off the pitch. So many stadia and party miles are within 1 hours drive. Plus Düsseldorf has an international airport.
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