Home > Soccer Forum > Not Soccer Related > Politics & Current Events

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06 Dec 2004, 09:06 PM   #1
BenReilly
BigSoccer Member+
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Default Chicago Fire

http://www.nbc5.com/news/3976109/det...94&dppid=65193

Quote:
The first reports came in around 6:30 p.m. The Chicago Fire Department has classified the blaze as a 411 fire. Flames could be seen shooting from windows on an upper floor.

The building is the LaSalle National Bank Building, which is a 45-story building built in 1934 -- before sprinklers were required on every floor in high-rises.

There are reports of people inside the building. Witnesses saw people waving their hands out windows.

The Chicago 911 center told NBC5 it has reports of people on the 26th, 27th, 30th and 34th floors.
BenReilly is offline   Quote 

TRY BIGSOCCER
NOW!
NEWS, SCORES & TABLES FOR 1,300 CLUBS

Connect in the web's largest forums.
Blog about soccer from your point of view.
Shop 17,000 authentic soccer items.




On sale for $7.99
at our soccer store

On sale for $29.99
or buy soccer jerseys

Old 06 Dec 2004, 10:19 PM   #2
Levante
BigSoccer Member+
 
Levante's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Default Re: Chicago Fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenReilly

I work right across from the Lasalle Bank Building and walked out of work right as it began.

There is going to be mandatory sprinklers now in pre-1975 buildings.
Levante is offline   Quote 
Old 07 Dec 2004, 11:37 AM   #3
La China Poblana
BigSoccer Member+
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chicago
Default Chicago High-Rise Fire Injures 37

CHICAGO -- A stubborn fire raged for 5 1/2 hours on the 29th floor of a historic downtown skyscraper, shooting flames from windows and sending at least 37 people to hospitals, most of them firefighters who suffered smoke inhalation. Some injuries were serious, but no deaths were reported.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...l=chi-news-hed

login: bigsoccer
pw: bigsoccer
La China Poblana is offline   Quote 
Old 07 Dec 2004, 11:54 AM   #4
Coach_McGuirk
BigSoccer Member+
 
Coach_McGuirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Between the Pipes
Default Re: Chicago High-Rise Fire Injures 37

And to think I was going to chastise everyone for something soccer related in an "NSR" area.

I saw a bit of this on the news.

Bad stuff.

In an unrelated note: Both Chicago and Dallas have NBC affiliates on Channel 5. Who'd have thunk it?
Coach_McGuirk is offline   Quote 
Old 07 Dec 2004, 11:58 AM   #5
Claymore
BigSoccer Member+
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Montgomery Vlg, MD

Supporter: DC United
Foe: New England Revolution
Default Re: Chicago Fire

How did they get a cow up on the 26th floor?
Claymore is offline   Quote 
Old 07 Dec 2004, 12:03 PM   #6
bojendyk
BigSoccer Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: South Loop, Chicago
Default Re: Chicago Fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levante
There is going to be mandatory sprinklers now in pre-1975 buildings.
This is still extremely unlikely. There are more high rises in Chicago than you can count, and the cost of adding sprinkler systems can cost in the millions. Some friend of ours learned that, if sprinklers were added to their building--which is a fairly small high-rise--they would be faced with a special assessment of anywhere from $20,000 to $40,000, which would require refinancing the condo.
bojendyk is offline   Quote 
Old 07 Dec 2004, 12:08 PM   #7
Coach_McGuirk
BigSoccer Member+
 
Coach_McGuirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Between the Pipes
Default Re: Chicago Fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Claymore
How did they get a cow up on the 26th floor?
Today's new leader for "Best Post of the Day"
Coach_McGuirk is offline   Quote 
Old 07 Dec 2004, 02:26 PM   #8
zverskiy yobar
BigSoccer Yellow Card
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Default Re: Chicago Fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by bojendyk
This is still extremely unlikely. There are more high rises in Chicago than you can count, and the cost of adding sprinkler systems can cost in the millions. Some friend of ours learned that, if sprinklers were added to their building--which is a fairly small high-rise--they would be faced with a special assessment of anywhere from $20,000 to $40,000, which would require refinancing the condo.
Fox news had Ald. Bernard Stone on last night.From what he said it looks like not only is it going to pass, but it was likely going to be put through council within the next few weeks even before this happened.

He commented that the pre-75 sprinkler law would only affect commercial properties and not residential.

The Fire Dept. actually backs it with that stipulation.The reasoning is that residential high rises are in "a chamber" fashion.That is they are not wide open spaces like many commerical buildings.Residential high rises are much easier to contain then commercial high rise fires.For example last nights fire was exagerated by the fact that the floor it broke out own had cubilces.These things go up like you would not belive.

High rise residential fires on the other hand usually do not spread out of the original source area as quickly or as easily. a case in point is the high rise public housing.They have no sprinklers and have a high rate of calls of fire.They very rarely spread outside the initial apartment and fatalities are low.. compared to house or low rise apartment fires.
zverskiy yobar is offline   Quote 
Old 07 Dec 2004, 02:35 PM   #9
bojendyk
BigSoccer Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: South Loop, Chicago
Default Re: Chicago Fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by zverskiy yobar
Fox news had Ald. Bernard Stone on last night.From what he said it looks like not only is it going to pass, but it was likely going to be put through council within the next few weeks even before this happened.

He commented that the pre-75 sprinkler law would only affect commercial properties and not residential.

The Fire Dept. actually backs it with that stipulation.The reasoning is that residential high rises are in "a chamber" fashion.That is they are not wide open spaces like many commerical buildings.Residential high rises are much easier to contain then commercial high rise fires.For example last nights fire was exagerated by the fact that the floor it broke out own had cubilces.These things go up like you would not belive.

High rise residential fires on the other hand usually do not spread out of the original source area as quickly or as easily. a case in point is the high rise public housing.They have no sprinklers and have a high rate of calls of fire.They very rarely spread outside the initial apartment and fatalities are low.. compared to house or low rise apartment fires.
That's interesting to hear (and a relief--we live in a high rise in Hyde Park). We did hear talk about installation of sprinklers in residential areas, but that was apparently a different debate.
bojendyk is offline   Quote 
Old 07 Dec 2004, 05:31 PM   #10
Barbara
BigSoccer Member++
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Department of Law

Supporter: DC United
Default Re: Chicago Fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levante
I work right across from the Lasalle Bank Building and walked out of work right as it began.

There is going to be mandatory sprinklers now in pre-1975 buildings.

I'm stunned to learn that it wasn't already mandatory to retro-fit old buildings.
Barbara is offline   Quote 
Share

Reply

  Home > Forums > Not Soccer Related > Politics & Current Events


On sale for $112.44
at our soccer store

On sale for $102.44
or buy soccer jerseys

Share
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Forum Jump

World of Soccer
On The Pitch
Equipment & Gear
Soccer Store
England
Europe
USA
Americas
Asia, Oceania & Africa
Women's Soccer
Not Soccer Related
Customer Service







All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:28 AM.



 

Copyright © 2009 Big Internet Group, LLC. All rights reserved. PRIVACY POLICY. TERMS OF USE.
The BigSoccer name and logo and 'Share the Passion!' are service marks of Big Internet Group, LLC.
The BIG Network: Soccer | Aussie Rules Football | Travel | Cricket | Lacrosse | Music
Views expressed by the bloggers and users of BigSoccer do not represent the views of Big Internet Group, LLC.