The José María Gutiérrez Hernández Thread

gazzad_5 · 10 Nov 2004, 07:18 AM

this is a guy who people seem to love to hate
he is a superb talent with a poor attitude, but of late he seems a lot more focused and is doing well i feel
under del bosque he played as a striker and scored a fair few goals if i remember correctly
lately, at least while becks has been injured he's been playing a more centre/defensive mid role
personally, i think he has done superb, and posted in a another thread i said beckham sholdnt be able to just automatically win back his place
ever since becks got injured and guti came into the side we have had a reverse in fortunes, maybe this is no coincidence??
i dont think he should be thrown out of the starting 11 just because golden balls comes back, just so perez can sell a few more shirts!

anirbanblah · 10 Nov 2004, 07:23 AM

Agree 100%. I've been at the forefront of the Guti-bashers but he has really impressed me with his distribution and ability to keep possession in the last few matches. Finally displaying his potential on the field instead of acting like a petulant, spoilt brat... and if he keeps playing this wayI 'm happy admit I was wrong over the years when claiming he was one of the most overrated players that I have seen play for madrid.

Lockjaw · 10 Nov 2004, 07:27 AM

Guti & Owen have both been playing well. Both are fighting for a spot in the starting 11. Maybe Ronaldo should be the one on the bench to start the game this weekend?

anirbanblah · 10 Nov 2004, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lockjaw

Guti & Owen have both been playing well. Both are fighting for a spot in the starting 11. Maybe Ronaldo should be the one on the bench to start the game this weekend?

I think I said the same on the malaga thread. I really believe a day on the bench would be good for Ronaldo. Hopefully light a cracker up his arse and get him fired upto prove a point against Barca.
But ideally I'd like him to be replaced by Moro.
What I don't want is a cop-out where it's used by the coach to pay Beckham alongside Guti and Raul behind Owen, and gently ease out Guti in the next match once Ronaldo comes back.

Lockjaw · 10 Nov 2004, 10:27 AM

I have my doubts that GR feels strong enough to bench a Galactico at the beginning of a game. I think its much more likely that we will see the same formation that was used against Malaga, with Beckham taking the place of Celades & Owen on the bench.

Highway Penguin · 10 Nov 2004, 06:37 PM

Guti is one of my favorite players. Works really hard when he plays, and now that Becks is here (Been here) he has to work really hard to play. I'm glad Beckham got injured or he wouldn't have been able to play as much. Maybe he'll be starting now. HOpefully.

Lockjaw · 11 Nov 2004, 10:21 AM

I just saw that Guti got picked by the NT to play in the next game. So did Helguera. We have the potential to see 5 RMers (Raul, Salgado, Casillas, Guti & Helguera) play against 2 (Beckham & Owen). Lets hope they don't kill each other.

Gonzalo · 11 Nov 2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lockjaw

I just saw that Guti got picked by the NT to play in the next game. So did Helguera. We have the potential to see 5 RMers (Raul, Salgado, Casillas, Guti & Helguera) play against 2 (Beckham & Owen). Lets hope they don't kill each other.

Beckham is still doubtful for that game. I think you're unlikely to see a very high-intensity game from the Real players, given that the Barcelona-Real game will take place just three days later.

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sendorange · 11 Nov 2004, 01:19 PM

I doubt Beckham will play in that, I certainly can't see either him, Owen and the other RM players doing much more than jog around for the first 45 to 60 minutes before being subbed off, or coming on late as subs.

All of the RM players will be thinking of the Barca game and not wanting to strain themselves, which I don't blame them for. A classico with such strong implications for the title race is far more important than some friendly 18 months before the next world cup.