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19 Sep 2002, 10:17 AM
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offside on PK
I was just reading about the San Jose v. Club America exhibition in which a CA player took a pk, put the ball off the post, then put the rebound in the net. Apparently the goal was disallowed because the pk taker was in an offside position.
Is this the correct call? How does the pk taker get in an onside position?
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19 Sep 2002, 10:23 AM
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Who made the comment?
Sounds to me like he double touched the ball. By that I mean that the kicker cannot play the ball again unless it has been touched by another player. This would result in an indirect free kick to the other team.
Remember as long as you are behind the ball, even if there are no defenders, you can receive a pass and not be judged offside.
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19 Sep 2002, 10:25 AM
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The PK taker can not be offside. If he played it off the post without anyone else playing it, then it is an indirect kick for the other team (same result as an offside call). The PK kicker can't play the ball a second time until the ball is touched by another player. The post is not a player, nor is the referee.
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19 Sep 2002, 10:25 AM
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Re: offside on PK
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Originally posted by uniteo
I was just reading about the San Jose v. Club America exhibition in which a CA player took a pk, put the ball off the post, then put the rebound in the net. Apparently the goal was disallowed because the pk taker was in an offside position.
Is this the correct call? How does the pk taker get in an onside position?
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that is the correct call.....the ball must be touched by another player before the pk shooter can touch it again.....if the ball were to hit off of the goalie and then hit the post, he would have been able to play it, but since it directly hit the post he can not touch the ball again until somebody else touches it
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19 Sep 2002, 10:26 AM
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I doubt he called offsides. A PK is an indirect kick and since no one touched the ball beside the kicker he wasn't to play the ball.
Stupid play by the PK taker; players should know that.
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19 Sep 2002, 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Chicken Eater
I doubt he called offsides. A PK is an indirect kick and since no one touched the ball beside the kicker he wasn't to play the ball.
Stupid play by the PK taker; players should know that.
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the official explanation on the 'quakes matchtracker said the ball hit the post without touching the keeper and came back to the shooter. it wasn't offsides.
confusing call, though
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19 Sep 2002, 10:40 AM
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There seems to be an echo in this thread.
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19 Sep 2002, 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Chicken Eater
I doubt he called offsides. A PK is an indirect kick and since no one touched the ball beside the kicker he wasn't to play the ball.
Stupid play by the PK taker; players should know that.
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a PK is a DIRECT kick.
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19 Sep 2002, 12:01 PM
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offside on PK
There can not be any offside on a PK as long as the refree made sure that the players are in their proper possition and no player encroaches before the kick is taken. This is a result of the change in the law a few years back that required all players except the keeper and kicker to be behind the penalty mark. This will put them even or behind the ball.
This change was done so that referees and ARs would not have to worry abour offside calls when the ball rebounds into play from a PK. Since the AR is on the goal line, he/she is not in possition to judge offside line.
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19 Sep 2002, 12:04 PM
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as noted, it was correct to disallow the goal. as is the case anywhere on the field, the player taking a free kick cannot touch the ball a second time until it is touched by another player. the shooter on a penalty kick can follow up on a rebound off the goalie, but if the ball is off the post, the shooter can't touch it (since it hasn't touched a second player yet). indirect kick to the other team. (for those new to this concept, a similar result would follow if a kicker of a free kick inadvertently blasted the ball into the referee, and then tried to kick it again).
also, even aside from the shooter, i don't think there could ever be an offside call on a penalty kick. if i'm not mistaken, the players on the shooting team have to line up behind the ball on a penalty kick (meaning, they can't stand in the corner and then run in, but have to be positioned outside the box/arc, behind the ball).
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