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That isn't a shot at European fans at all. I'm one too, as my fan id here shows. It's a shot at those folks who won't buy a ticket unless MLS exactly replicated Europe down to pro/rel and single table and no playoffs--among many other things.

 

Once contracted the Burn can flare up at any time.

 

Regarding the name change. I can't see the European fan base start to support MLS just because the matchups are now "United vs FC Dallas" or "Sporting vs United" or whatever else comes along. They'll pick something else to hate on.

I've seen these names listed in such fashion as "Columbus vs Club Deportivo." I hope it's not a matter of time until we see something like "KC Sportings" or "Kansas Sportings." Ugh. Over on KC's board, there is some talk about keeping "Wizards" a nickname, just the same as FC Dallas has "Hoops" as their nickname.

 

It's definitely crazy times here right now. The Cauldron is not renaming itself, and any song that had Wiz/Wizards before will stay that way in the future. New songs, well we'll see. We're not going to force Sporting on people right away and we won't have the FC Dallas problem of deciding on a nickname. Wizards will stick around in some way.

My favorite was being down 2-1 and scoring two goals close to stoppage time to win. Sigi was building something special then and you could see it but you guys were snakebit that year. You got plenty of revenge over the next couple seasons that's for sure.

 

Now there is a game that lives in infamy still...

 

Is it your position that having a team change its name every three to four years doesn't affect the credibility of the league?

Anyway, I'm glad to hear you love Sporting Kansas City.

Maybe we'll be Bayern Columbus in two years and you'll be golden.

 

TFC would still miss the playoffs.




They deserve butter.

 

And FIFA would ask them to play a fall-spring season just like the rest of the world .... in front of 500 fans, just like the old CSL. They have maybe 3-5 viable cities for a top flight league. The travel would be a killer. You might be able to make a go of an 8 team league. Maximum. I wish it were otherwise and that's no slam on Canada but they have had a tough time keeping the CFL alive--let alone soccer. They'd be a Scottish league equivalent but spread over five timezones.

 

You know, this argument has been repeated so many times that it has started to meld into fact, despite not being logical.

For the last decade or so, Montreal, Portland, Vancouver, Seattle and Toronto have played in a league that includes Miami, Puerto Rico and Austin Texas.

This is while running those teams on A-League revenues, often drawing 5000 or fewer fans, with zero TV money, paltry commercial sponsorships and tiny merchandise sales.

They seemed to handle the travel just fine.

Yet, somehow, it's impossible for them to make a go of it, even when you eliminate the flights to the Carribbean, Florida, Texas and California, despite Division 1 status, a TV deal, vastly larger merchandise sales and TFC-sized crowds because of the vast distances involved.

I;m sorry man, but that just doesn't wash.

 

i just wish the KC logo had some city significance behind it.

 

Exactly. I guess I'm an old fart, but when it comes to crests/shields whatever, those with a connection to the city, state, region etc. seem the best. If there comes a day when Columbus switches up that crest, it would behoof them to keep it symbolic to Columbus.

 

Bill, I'm not sure how they do it then, to be honest. I remember talking with Kinsley back in the day and he noted that the #1 cost for the Xoggz was travel--one of the big reasons they survived for as long as they did was their sponsorship with America West. I guess some of these backers hare multimillion/billionares so it doesn't matter as much. But I doubt they have them in enough cities to make a Canadian league viable. It's not like the US 2nd division is that viable--and you would have to think that any CSL would be closer to de facto 2nd division status if they have any kind of foreign player rule. Vancouver, Seattle, and Portland have had the advantage of being able to play each other a lot. Toronto Lynx were a failure in the old USL-1--smallest crowds in the league. The USL Division 1 has two teams left. Austin was only in the league for 2 years--they are moving to Orlando. The only old teams that managed to survive at the Div 2 (USL-1/NASL) level other than the ones that moved up to MLS or moved down are Rochester (and it does not seem to be clear where they are playing this coming year). The next oldest team is PR (and do they not get some help from the PR government?). All the other teams are 2005 or newer. That does not bode well for the survival of an future CSL. I really doubt that Vancouver, Montreal, or Toronto want to be in a CSL. I think this was more a shot across the bow of the USL/NASL. Pretty much all the survivors you mentioned are the *only* survivors, excepting Rochester (who would take an MLS team in an instant)--and they are all going to MLS. The lower level USL team are moving or already have moved to a regional model. So I'll maintain my claim.

 

I love Spurs. Today was a good day. Nee, today was fantastic day.

 

Fantastic game, fantastic result for Sir 'Arry