[BhoysFC1995]

big ODI series set to begin on thursday (which also happens to be the day Englands 1/4 final of Euro '04)

England could rise to second in ODI table

thats if they win all their games.

England Hit By Injurie Woes

so NZ had injury problems for their test, now England facing it for their ODI's

Key looks to hit high notes
"England batsman Robert Key feels his international career will go better the second time around and hopes he won't have to rely on his musical appreciation to keep a spot in the side."

Kiwis get just 2nd tour win

any predictions? thursdays day/night game is England vs NZ at old trafford.

[ScouseCat]

Originally Posted by BhoysFC1995

any predictions? thursdays day/night game is England vs NZ at old trafford.

The Kiwis are a pretty good ODI team and will give England a run for their money I reckon. I don't expect the West Indies to cause too many problems on English wickets, but you never know with them. Brian Lara is one player who could win a game or two off his own bat, but their bowling attack is weak.

[BhoysFC1995]

England dealt a major blow today as Flintoff is ruled out for the series as NZ spinner Vettori seems to be fully healed from the hamstring injury that kept him out of the thrid test vs england.

[BhoysFC1995]

West Indies play NZ tomorrow, the England-NZ match was a washout.

The two teams last met at Port Elizabeth in the 2003 World Cup where New Zealand won by 20 runs.

Fleming unhappy with schedule

they have to play games on consecutive days, "The tight ten-match NatWest Series schedule means that 10 matches are played in 17 days"

[BhoysFC1995]

finally after the first 2 games were washouts, a game is being played.

ENGLAND all out for 147 (38.2ov), West Indies 0/26 (9.2ov)

147 is englands all time low at trent bridge.

last night i was able to watch some of the highlights of the NZ-WI washout. firstly it was nice to able to see some ODI highlights, its been a while. Plus it was quit a pleasure seeing Lara bat (isn't it always?).

[BhoysFC1995]

england's recent test domination unable to transfer to ODI's as ....

WINDIES 3/148 beat England 10/147 by 7 wickets

Gayle (WI) hit an unbeaten 60, slamming nine 4's in 90 balls. Lara contributed six boundaries in 32 not out off 29 balls.

it only took the West Indies 32.2 overs to defeat England. i have to say this is quit a shocker- what the heck happened to england here?

standings as of now-

• WIndies 9 pts
• NZ 6pts
• England 3pts

England and NZ play tuesday, hopefully as long as the rain doesn't come.

[michaec]

It all comes back to not playing your best players. As long as the England hierarchy think that playing a bunch of "all-rounders", bits and pieces players like McGrath, Blackwell and Clarke instead of your best players, say, Thorpe, Butcher and Hoggard in one-dayers then we won't win anything. The top teams in the world may change one or maybe two players for their one-day squads, but that's it. Losing Flintoff was unfortunate, but playing mediocre all-rounders is stupid. Proper batsmen who can make runs and proper bowlers who can take wickets, it's a simple game isn't it?

[BhoysFC1995]

so the england captain says he wants more specialized players (bowlers, as well as batters/not all rounders) and the selectors do the opposite. so what happens-

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New Zealand 103 for 3 (Fleming 31, Harmison 3-38) beat England 101 (Franklin 5-42) by seven wickets

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/C...29JUN2004.html

[BhoysFC1995]

England scored 160/3 to beat the West Indies by seven wickets at Headingley, in the fifth one-day international of the NatWest Series.

standings-games played-points
New Zealand 3 12
West Indies 3 9
England 4 9

[BhoysFC1995]

complaints about the pitch in england-
Styris blasts England's 'rubbish wickets'
Poor pitches set tone of disquiet

KIWIS CLAIM EASY VICTORY-


Chris Cairns collecting excellent figures of 3-29 as Brian Lara made a score of 58

BBC Report
FSW Report

standings-
all teams played 4 games
NZ 17pts
WI 10pts
ENG 9pts