[fidlerre]

can someone clairfy the throw-in rule for me?

what is legal? what is illegal?

case in point: we play with a guy who throws the ball in and it has tremendous amounts of spin on the ball. it comes out stright over his head but upon release the thing spins like crazy...is that legal?

[Alberto]

Originally posted by fidlerre
can someone clairfy the throw-in rule for me?

what is legal? what is illegal?

case in point: we play with a guy who throws the ball in and it has tremendous amounts of spin on the ball. it comes out stright over his head but upon release the thing spins like crazy...is that legal?

That one of the myths of the game and is covered in a video produced by the USSF.

As long as the throwing motion is continuous and the ball is brought behind the head and released over his head with both hands it is a legal throw. Spin or no spin.

[blech]

this is a change in the rules, right?

my understanding is that it used to be that you couldn't have a dominant hand/arm on the throw. as a result, if there was spin, it was presumed there was a problem with the throw.

now, it is only necessary that the ball come from behind the head and proceed over the head (as opposed to being on the side of the head). sidespin, by itself, doesn't tell you anything about this.

[Greyhnd00]

Originally posted by blech
this is a change in the rules, right?

my understanding is that it used to be that you couldn't have a dominant hand/arm on the throw. as a result, if there was spin, it was presumed there was a problem with the throw.

now, it is only necessary that the ball come from behind the head and proceed over the head (as opposed to being on the side of the head). sidespin, by itself, doesn't tell you anything about this.

Dont think it has changed since 1997.

[Andyrey]

A long time ago (at least 8 years but probably more) the law used to say that one of the requiremets of a throw in was that the player 'use both hands with equal force'. At that time the referees were taught that if the ball spinned, then it was an ilegal throw because of 'no equal force'.

The law today just has a requirement that the player 'uses both hands' That is interpreted to mean that both hands contibute to impart momemtum to the ball, but not necesarily in equal parts. Practically, as long as the player does not do a 'basketball style' throw (where one hand is behind the ball and the other on the side of the ball), that portion of the law is satisfied.

There are special provisions on a memo (and I can not locate it right now) for players that do not have two hands. It basically says that if a player can not comply with the two hand requirement because of a physical imparment, that as long as the other requirements of the law are complied with, the throw in is legal.

[fidlerre]

Originally posted by Alberto


That one of the myths of the game and is covered in a video produced by the USSF.

As long as the throwing motion is continuous and the ball is brought behind the head and released over his head with both hands it is a legal throw. Spin or no spin.

that is what i thought, but many teams give the ref trouble when the ball spins out of his hands and will not shut-up about it throughout the entire game...

cool. thanks for the clarification...

[jc508]

To my knowledge the FIFA/USSF Laws of the Game have never required equal force by both hands in a throw-in. There has never been an issue about spinning the ball.

NFHS did have a rule requiring equal force by both hands until recently. This engendered the "too much spin" rule.

However, aren't we spending too much effort to watch the throw when there are real and potential fouls going on in and around where the ball will land from the throw-in. Why do we make the throw-in so complicated when it is so simple? Yes, egregious errors in the mechanics need to be addressed, but I have to say that I am as liberal on allowing imperfections in throw-ins as anyone can be. Let them play. Who wants a throw-in contest!

[Scott Zawadzki]

A throw-in is nothing more than a way to get the game going again. Nothing iritates me more than when I'm an AR and the CR keeps blowing the whistle for illegal throw-ins. My standard rule-of-thumb when I ref is UNLESS they were trying to gain an unfair advantage I will mention in passing to the player something like "try to keep that foot down" or "Let's try to start the throw with the ball behind your head next time".

As jc508 said "LET THEM PLAY!"

When the coach or parent yells "He lifted up his foot" just yell back "TRIFLING!"...it'll confuse them long enough for you to get away!

Scott

[soccerwookie]

Originally posted by fidlerre
can someone clairfy the throw-in rule for me?

what is legal? what is illegal?

case in point: we play with a guy who throws the ball in and it has tremendous amounts of spin on the ball. it comes out stright over his head but upon release the thing spins like crazy...is that legal?

Yeah, the guy is a real dork too. Drives the whole team crazy.

[fidlerre]

Originally posted by soccerwookie


Yeah, the guy is a real dork too. Drives the whole team crazy.

of course he does

see wook, i figured despite my past experiences with other ref's i would ask everyone here and my past thoughts are correct, my throw-ins are fine.

damn whiney players on the other teams...