[NACIONAL]

What is new... I've seen a lot of reenderings... like this one (below), when the building works begin???

[Syncope]

Work will supposedly start this year still.

I'm guessing they decided to make it even bigger. Count the number of players in this rendering (it's ridiculously large, which is why I'm not displaying it here). I'm guessing it must be because Bayern has such a large and talented squad that everyone is promised playing time.

Picture
http://www.allianzarena.de/german/pr..._fcb-innen.jpg

Site in English:
http://www.allianzarena.de/english/index.html

[NACIONAL]

Originally posted by Syncope
Work will supposedly start this year still.

I'm guessing they decided to make it even bigger. Count the number of players in this rendering

good one.... damn... beautiful rendering... stupid people... i counted 16.... but I'm not sure..... nice stadium indeed..

[NACIONAL]

ohhh.. can anyone give me some help?????

where i can find most (if not all) the renderings for the proposed stadium designs for the allianz arena????, i want to see all the proposals...

[JJ Mindset]

Do both clubs own equal shares of the stadium? If so, then how would
such an arrangement work? Can one club veto whatever proposed event
other than football from the other club? Why did both clubs felt
it's preferable to share one new stadium?

[Forza Bayern]

Originally posted by JJ Mindset
Do both clubs own equal shares of the stadium

Yes.

Originally posted by JJ Mindset
If so, then how would such an arrangement work?

The stadium belongs to a company which belongs to Bayern and 1860. Each club has 50% shares of this company.

Originally posted by JJ Mindset
Can one club veto whatever proposed event
other than football from the other club?

No.

Originally posted by JJ Mindset
Why did both clubs felt
it's preferable to share one new stadium?

Well, Munich has currently 1 large stadium (Olympiastadion), 1 medium stadium (Gruenwalder Stadion) and 1 small stadium (Dante-Stadion).
The Olympiastadium is the current home stadium of Bayern and 1860. Bayern has had quite long the desire to have own (pure) soccer stadium. They knew a new stadium would be extremely expensive to build (Munich is one of the most expensive cities in Europe; the most expensive city in Germany). So Bayern tryed to find other solutions. The architect of the Olympiastadion just allowed small modernisations, not the changes Bayern wanted. So Bayern knew they had to build a complete new stadium. Furthermore when this decision was made the World Championships 2006 were a hot topic. So the City of Munich supported Bayern to build a new stadium, because it was clear the old Olympiastadium wouldn't get games in case of World Championships 2006 in Germany. Munich without games? Unbelievable. So Bayern and the City of Munich searched a permise for a new stadium. And 1860 didn't want to stay alone in the Olympiastadium, which isn't still loved by the 1860 supporters. So Bayern and 1860 pays the stadium, the City of Munich, State of Bavaria, Federal Republic of Germany pays for the infrastructure.

So this is the story of Allianz Area.

[JJ Mindset]

Fascinating. Thanks for that small history lesson. Too bad there won't be that type of cooperation in Liverpool, although I wonder if it would be even possible from an economic standpoint.

I guess 1860 had decided that it's better to not rock the boat and go along with the plan, even though I think that Bayern could have found a way to fund the stadium themselves if they wanted to do that.

[e_k1]

The sooner its finished the better. The Olympic Stadion has to be one of the worst I've ever been in in terms of atmosphere for a football match. The Allianz looks great (from inside).

I could be wrong but 1860 seem to get crowds of around 25,000. So won't they be a bit lost in a 66,000 capacity venue?

[jonam]

the new stadium will probably raise the average attendance (we've seen that in schlacke, hamburg and now in cologne). not that the matches are sold out but maybe 35.000 instead of 25.000.

there are also plans to cover the third tier (maybe with ads) so that a smaller stadium with 44.000 will be "created".


jonam, http://www.schwatzgelb.com

[JeffS]

Originally posted by jonam
the new stadium will probably raise the average attendance (we've seen that in schlacke, hamburg and now in cologne). not that the matches are sold out but maybe 35.000 instead of 25.000.

there are also plans to cover the third tier (maybe with ads) so that a smaller stadium with 44.000 will be "created".


jonam, http://www.schwatzgelb.com

That's what MLS does in the big American football stadiums.

Once Allianz is completed, Bayern will become even bigger (and even more competitive in Europe), and 1860 will become more competititve in the BL (maby Lauth and Schroth can make it to Europe).