[epsilonway-redded]

Aw we all saw in the match, France cheated against Ireland in World Cup Play-off.
Thierry Henry used hand in the penalty box and that made France the equalizer and made France to be qualify for World Cup.

Ireland was definitely robbed. I am not Irish but this one is something that shouldn't be overlooked.
France should be revoked among 32 qualified teams.

[Lusankya]

And then? A rematch?

[emmex]

There isn't such a thing as the perfect game...nor should there be...
We will take away from humanity when the human element wasn't part of the game.

"only if the ref played extra time"
"only if the ref blew for the sliding tackle 20 minutes back"
"only if the ref didn't blow for the dive of Ronaldo"
"only if the ref wasn't struck by the ball"

There are just too many variables...the bounce of the ball or roll of the dice should be allowed and accepted as part of the game....

If France wasn't supposed to qualify, nor was this team or that with their own imperfect decisions by the ref....Should all those decisions be revoked as well? When does one draw the line?

Eliminating the flaws in the game will only make it more robotic, than human....there will be no drama or emotion....

Besides...each and every team should always over accomodate and play well enough that it is not needed to rely on the ref....

[Excape Goat]

Originally Posted by Lusankya

And then? A rematch?

Yes, Ireland 2009 will take on England 1986 for the last spot. I am sure that 49 years old Lineker still gets it in him.

Seriously, this is not the first time it happened in this game and it won't be the last!!! We should learn to live with it.

[lpporto]

I know what. I liked it. I don't care if was fare or not, but i'm sick of watching Ireland games at the WC. 80% of them ends up 0-0. The rest, 1-0 for either way. The goal average on Ireland WC games must be around 0.25 goals per game.

[Dage]

Pretty much the same like a France match of the last two tournaments if you ask me.

[Match-Debater]

France are poor & they know it. Their coach is a national joke & the players show no heart. Given barely tested by their "superior" talents. They were obviously desperate. Even Thierry "Mr. Fairplay" Henry chose to adopt the win-at-all-costs method, which is only "professional, "part of the game's culture" & ultimately accepted because it is allowed to.

Far from being unique, Henry's non-"purposeful" act merely places him right amongst the herd. Cheating, diving, conning, play-acting has been common place for aoens. The sport of football will continue to keep its head buried deeply in the sand. Stuck in the past about adopting video technology. Like tennis, give each team say 3 challenges per half. This would prevent it from being abused every 2 minutes & activated only for decisive game-changing moments like last night's in Paris. In that instance, Trappa, say with 1 challenge remaining, clearly sees the furious reaction of his back four & keeper, detects foulplay & signals to an official his intention to challengs the goal. Official then signals to video official in the stand, incident is then viewed then confirmation of breach of rules relayed back to offical on the park & all is concluded within seconds well before game is even able to kick-off again. Player is sent-off, goal dissallowed & game restarts.

For some time now International football's credibilty has been declining in general. Many traits taken from the club game are now mirrored in the International arena. Players practically picking & choosing who they shall play for & when/who they'll play under &, like the club game, nations attempting to buy success via grossly paid foreign management teams.

Of course, corruption was already in the air before ball had been kicked in Paris. What hope is there for the game to finally take responsibility & bansih the cheats currently killing the game when it's rotten from the top down. FIFA's pitiful statement, living up to their pathetic reputation, is hardly encouraging for those sick of blatant cheating. An absolute odious shower.

The game is ultimately flawed & will continue to be so unless the authorities show any serious interest in combatting cheating.

Not only seeded for a 2nd time having already failed to merit the initial seeding, France being awarded as seeds again, they had to cheat against the less fashionable nation to qualify for the big tourney. The sickening trend in these cases is that ontop of cheating, robbing a nation's hopes, the culprits always argue that black is white, total denial despite conclusive video evidence. Trying to protect their hollow image rights in a stinking game overflowing with cheats & liars, allowed to flourish in this flawed game.

Henry's use of the hand to not only stop the ball from going out of play but to then control it on to his favoured right foot was as blatant as it gets. His explanation was typically insulting as per the norm in these occassions.

In this particular case, forget any talk of replays, hardly going to happen, France could lose plus an uncertain precedent, one which would, for a 3rd time, yet again offer France a lifeline. If there was any justice in the game, the Republic of Ireland would be given a bye, simple as, end of.

Here's hoping the finals are besieged by conning & cheating. It truly deserves it. Why stop now, eh?

[lpporto]

Originally Posted by Dage

Pretty much the same like a France match of the last two tournaments if you ask me.

But France hasn't always been like that. So there is hope for a good match. I had never watched a good Ireland match in my live.

Besides that, this leaves Holland to be draw in a group, facing a seeding team, what is always intersting to watch.

[IU Gooner]

Maybe we should just have ********ing video review already and we wouldn't have these problems.

[emmex]

Originally Posted by Match-Debater

France are poor & they know it. Their coach is a national joke & the players show no heart. Given barely tested by their "superior" talents. They were obviously desperate. Even Thierry "Mr. Fairplay" Henry chose to adopt the win-at-all-costs method, which is only "professional, "part of the game's culture" & ultimately accepted because it is allowed to.

Far from being unique, Henry's non-"purposeful" act merely places him right amongst the herd. Cheating, diving, conning, play-acting has been common place for aoens. The sport of football will continue to keep its head buried deeply in the sand. Stuck in the past about adopting video technology. Like tennis, give each team say 3 challenges per half. This would prevent it from being abused every 2 minutes & activated only for decisive game-changing moments like last night's in Paris. In that instance, Trappa, say with 1 challenge remaining, clearly sees the furious reaction of his back four & keeper, detects foulplay & signals to an official his intention to challengs the goal. Official then signals to video official in the stand, incident is then viewed then confirmation of breach of rules relayed back to offical on the park & all is concluded within seconds well before game is even able to kick-off again. Player is sent-off, goal dissallowed & game restarts.

For some time now International football's credibilty has been declining in general. Many traits taken from the club game are now mirrored in the International arena. Players practically picking & choosing who they shall play for & when/who they'll play under &, like the club game, nations attempting to buy success via grossly paid foreign management teams.

Of course, corruption was already in the air before ball had been kicked in Paris. What hope is there for the game to finally take responsibility & bansih the cheats currently killing the game when it's rotten from the top down. FIFA's pitiful statement, living up to their pathetic reputation, is hardly encouraging for those sick of blatant cheating. An absolute odious shower.

The game is ultimately flawed & will continue to be so unless the authorities show any serious interest in combatting cheating.

Not only seeded for a 2nd time having already failed to merit the initial seeding, France being awarded as seeds again, they had to cheat against the less fashionable nation to qualify for the big tourney. The sickening trend in these cases is that ontop of cheating, robbing a nation's hopes, the culprits always argue that black is white, total denial despite conclusive video evidence. Trying to protect their hollow image rights in a stinking game overflowing with cheats & liars, allowed to flourish in this flawed game.

Henry's use of the hand to not only stop the ball from going out of play but to then control it on to his favoured right foot was as blatant as it gets. His explanation was typically insulting as per the norm in these occassions.

In this particular case, forget any talk of replays, hardly going to happen, France could lose plus an uncertain precedent, one which would, for a 3rd time, yet again offer France a lifeline. If there was any justice in the game, the Republic of Ireland would be given a bye, simple as, end of.

Here's hoping the finals are besieged by conning & cheating. It truly deserves it. Why stop now, eh?

You obviously feel very strongly about this....

I like your "tennis" challenge idea....never thought of an additional umpire being done in this way....always thought that there would be too many delays....

Even in Rugby the ref can ask wether the try has been scored as many times as he like...it has had some major drawbacks, but the tennis system sounds more practical....