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09 Nov 2009, 01:47 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: The Evergreen State
Supporter: Seattle Sounders, Fulham FC, Yakima Reds
Foe: CD Chivas de Guadalajara, CD Chivas USA
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Should Qwest be a natural grass field?
Is it time to finally address the turf problem and go to grass permanently at Qwest? I say yes. I have faith the Qwest crew and ownership group would make it the best field in MLS for 3/4 of the year, and very much more tolerable than turf the final 1/4 and playoffs. I HATE football lines, but again, I trust the ownership group to make it right as much as is humanly possible, not the lip-service we've seen elsewhere. Bring on the grass!
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09 Nov 2009, 02:10 AM
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Re: Should Qwest be a natural grass field?
I put no for a couple reasons.
I like soccer on grass. In fact, I prefer it to be played on grass.
But, when sharing a field with a football team, I think that turf is ultimately better.
The pitch at Houston today was a prime example.
The other reason is that I don't think the turf at Qwest is as bad as everyone makes it out to be, it is certainly better than the turf at Toronto in my opinion.
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09 Nov 2009, 02:19 AM
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Location: Tacoma
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Re: Should Qwest be a natural grass field?
I am interested in desso grassmaster.
I think they need to install a desso Grassmaster field at Starfire to train on first.
That way they can get a better feel for it in our climate. It supposedly drains better than an all natural surface.
Seahawks would need to to use a minimalist approach with their football lines if they went to a surface like this. The paint does not come off as easily.
I think you would frequently see faded lines like at Houston today.
Not sure how it would hold up with both the Sounders and Seahawks playing on it.
But playing on the current surface is better than playing on the surface at Houston today.
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09 Nov 2009, 02:27 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Seattle
Supporter: Seattle Sounders, Liverpool FC, --other--
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Re: Should Qwest be a natural grass field?
I have yet to vote but I am in asoc's camp on this one. We should try a synthetic blend/natural blend first and see how that does.
Does anyone know how long Invesco in Denver has been Desso? Before or after DSG Park opened?
Faded lines I could accept. Obnoxious endzone paint not so much. But a muddy boggy pit definitely not, so I would vote no on a pure grass field
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09 Nov 2009, 02:33 AM
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Re: Should Qwest be a natural grass field?
I should have included a part synthetic/mostly grass surface like Lambeau or Mile High. Still, after a season on turf I think this poll is worthy for at least promoting further discussion.
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09 Nov 2009, 03:11 AM
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Location: Seattle, WA
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Re: Should Qwest be a natural grass field?
No.
Our turf is fine. I like it as is.
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09 Nov 2009, 03:20 AM
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Re: Should Qwest be a natural grass field?
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Originally Posted by Sempuukyaku
No.
Our turf is fine. I like it as is.
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If we didn't have to share the pitch yes. But since we do, no. The turf we have at Qwest is fine.
Much harder to remove American football lines from grass.
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09 Nov 2009, 04:02 AM
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Re: Should Qwest be a natural grass field?
Nothing is more convincing to me that our turf is fine than watching the Sounders play the popsicles. "COUGARS"??... Yellow soccer lines?
No thanks.
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09 Nov 2009, 04:12 AM
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Re: Should Qwest be a natural grass field?
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Nothing is more convincing to me that our turf is fine than watching the Sounders play the popsicles. "COUGARS"??... Yellow soccer lines?
No thanks.
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Because aesthetics of the viewer should be the highest consideration... 
The reason the Gynamo pitch sucked was because the college that maintains it did a horrific job maintaining the quality of the actual surface, not because of some faded paint. Id rather have a pitch that allows the play to be as close to natural as possible, regardless if bloated fans sitting in their reclining chairs want to see a perfectly spotless green surface, even if it sucks balls compared to a mediocre grass pitch with some football markings. YMMV.
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09 Nov 2009, 04:23 AM
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Re: Should Qwest be a natural grass field?
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