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o5iiawah · 21 Oct 2009, 10:53 PM

But never Racist. Tonight was the first time someone suggested that I preferred another team because my nationality resembled that of another team who seemed to be playing better and got a few consecutive calls in their favor.

Cant really decide whether I should have straight-red carded the miscreant for racist behavior of his own, yellowed for dissent, or done nothing.

Anyone had this directed at them before?

DadOf6 · 21 Oct 2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by o5iiawah

But never Racist. Tonight was the first time someone suggested that I preferred another team because my nationality resembled that of another team who seemed to be playing better and got a few consecutive calls in their favor.

Cant really decide whether I should have straight-red carded the miscreant for racist behavior of his own, yellowed for dissent, or done nothing.

Anyone had this directed at them before?

Straight red, with a nice supplemental report appended to the match report.

campbed · 21 Oct 2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o5iiawah

But never Racist. Tonight was the first time someone suggested that I preferred another team because my nationality resembled that of another team who seemed to be playing better and got a few consecutive calls in their favor.

Cant really decide whether I should have straight-red carded the miscreant for racist behavior of his own, yellowed for dissent, or done nothing.

Anyone had this directed at them before?

Can we have a quote, that would help.

I've had the opposite happen in a men's competative game. Latin team vs non-Latin (tip toeing with the PC here...). Comment after a call they didn't like. " You called that because we are Mexicans." Translation up to you here. My action? Team captain motioned over as I blow for half time. "You know thats not true. He was accusing me of racism. If I EVER hear that again from your team, straight red. Have a nice game, see you in a few minutes." Man management. Would I have been justified for just popping the red out? Yes. Was my approach better for the game at hand. I think so. I've never heard it again from this team.

YMMV.

Caesar · 21 Oct 2009, 11:36 PM

I don't need a quote, definite send-off. Doesn't get any more clear cut.

o5iiawah · 21 Oct 2009, 11:55 PM

Quote was something to the effect of: "you know why you're calling it that way. because you're (insert nationality/race)

Was not vulgar, no slurs. I caught up to him at the next restart and had a word that anything else suggested like that would be red. It was a very testy game between last place v 2nd to last place late in the 2nd.

I Did next week's ref a disservice. Live and Learn.

MassachusettsRef · 22 Oct 2009, 12:11 AM

Were you insulted? If you were, then you have your answer.

I'd put accusations of racism, or implications of racist motivations, on par with being accused of cheating--it's essentially the same charge, since your fidelity is supposed to be solely to the laws. We all know that "you're a cheat" are considered magic words for the top referees that warrant an immediate send off. I don't think "you're being racist" or "you're calling that because we're/you're __________" should be any different.

If it's loud enough to be public, I think the player has to go... 100%.

If it's said for only you to hear it, then maybe you can do something like campbed described. Should you? I'd tend to think not. Unless it's a heated, physical near-violent match where the cards are flying and a red card for a verbal statement that only you heard will make the situation worse... I really believe this needs to be red.

Alberto · 22 Oct 2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by campbed

Can we have a quote, that would help.

I've had the opposite happen in a men's competative game. Latin team vs non-Latin (tip toeing with the PC here...). Comment after a call they didn't like. " You called that because we are Mexicans." Translation up to you here. My action? Team captain motioned over as I blow for half time. "You know thats not true. He was accusing me of racism. If I EVER hear that again from your team, straight red. Have a nice game, see you in a few minutes." Man management. Would I have been justified for just popping the red out? Yes. Was my approach better for the game at hand. I think so. I've never heard it again from this team.

YMMV.

I had a Latino team accuse me of the same thing several years ago. I answered back in Spanish that it was not possible because I was also Latino. The player that accused me was quite shocked to hear me respond to him in Spanish, what did he think I was Italian? It's not like you could ever confuse me as from any other place than the Mediterranean.

ManiacalClown · 22 Oct 2009, 02:01 AM

Accusing someone of racism without any supporting evidence is outright slanderous, and anyone who does so risks going off in a bus, if you get my drift.

GKbenji · 22 Oct 2009, 02:33 AM

I got a "racist" comment once from a spectator. That was it: he just looked at me and said "Racist!"... after I'd called his team offside. Okay, calling offside is a racist act now? With the only hammer over spectators being suspending the game, it didn't seem worth it and I just game him a glare.

Drifting a bit, but an amusing story similar to Alberto's. I was running a line with lots of Spanish-speaking fans crowding the touch. I asked several times in English if they would move back, to no avail. Although I am as gringo as they come, I speak a bit of Spanish with a decent accent so finally I said, "Atras, por favor!"

Everyone immediately stepped back from the line... then did a double take when they realized what I'd just said. No more problems the rest of that game.