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02 Oct 2009, 02:49 PM
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3rd Place Scenario Thread [R]
Since posters are violating the sanctity of the result tag already, I'll post what needs to happen for the US to advance to the 2nd round now since we finished 3rd in Group C with 3 points and a -3 differential.
Note: goals scored will affect these scenarios, especially the Group F ones.
2 of 3 conditions need to occur for US to advance:
Group D: A draw; or England wins by 2 goals or less; or Uzbekistan wins by only 1 goal.
Group E: Czech Republic defeats Costa Rica by any number of goals; and Brazil wins, draws, or loses by only 1 goal to Australia.
Group F: UAE defeats Hungary by 5 goals (4 goals results in FIFA Fair Play where Hungary defeats US I think due to many cards we received); and Honduras defeats, draws, or loses by 5 goals to South Africa.
Group D appears to be most likely scenario. Group E is possible as well. I don't think we can count on Group F's happening.
If a 3rd place team ends up on 4 goals scored and a -3 differential, then it goes to FIFA Fair Play, which I think the US is going to lose.
Last edited by schrutebuck; 02 Oct 2009 at 03:45 PM.
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02 Oct 2009, 02:51 PM
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Re: 3rd Place Scenario Thread [R]
my god...its the confederations cup all over again
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02 Oct 2009, 02:57 PM
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Re: 3rd Place Scenario Thread [R]
If we advance in one of these 3 scenarios then here's who we would play:
Remember, Italy and Nigeria have to advance as well in a US advance scenario, so it's ABCD, ABCE and ABCF that we want.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tour...egypt_09_e.pdf
Page 31
According to the FIFA regulations for the event, in any of these 3 scenarios, 3rd place in Group C plays 1st place in Group A.
So if we advance, we play Egypt.
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02 Oct 2009, 03:01 PM
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Re: 3rd Place Scenario Thread [R]
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Originally Posted by IncredibleStan1
my god...its the confederations cup all over again 
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now we just have to beat the tournament favorites (egypt) and lose to brazil in the final game
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02 Oct 2009, 03:23 PM
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Re: 3rd Place Scenario Thread [R]
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Originally Posted by schrutebuck
If we advance in one of these 3 scenarios then here's who we would play:
Remember, Italy and Nigeria have to advance as well in a US advance scenario, so it's ABCD, ABCE and ABCF that we want.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tour...egypt_09_e.pdf
Page 31
According to the FIFA regulations for the event, in any of these 3 scenarios, 3rd place in Group C plays 1st place in Group A.
So if we advance, we play Egypt.
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wow....way to be on it smartiepants
i was just about to ask that
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02 Oct 2009, 03:43 PM
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Re: 3rd Place Scenario Thread [R]
sorry dude, help me out, the us will advance if all of the conditions happen of if one of them do????
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02 Oct 2009, 03:45 PM
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Re: 3rd Place Scenario Thread [R]
We would play Egypt if we are better than 3rd place D & E teams.
I don't see the group F scenario working for us.
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02 Oct 2009, 03:45 PM
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Re: 3rd Place Scenario Thread [R]
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Originally Posted by taylor
sorry dude, help me out, the us will advance if all of the conditions happen of if one of them do????
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I fixed it. At least 2 out of 3 scenarios need to occur for the US to advance.
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02 Oct 2009, 03:57 PM
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Re: 3rd Place Scenario Thread [R]
cheers
honest to god that was the worst I have ever seen us play....
off with all their heads...
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02 Oct 2009, 04:03 PM
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Re: 3rd Place Scenario Thread [R]
I probably shouldn't admit this, but I'm hoping we don't advance. I just don't want to see our kids humiliated again.
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