[Eleven Bravo]

five games left, and i think the Confederations Cup and Gold Cup has given us a lot of answers.

Player Pool (using the FIFA 09 abbreviations for positions):
Tim Howard-GK
Brad Guzan-GK
Troy Perkins-GK
Marcus Hahnemann-GK
Steve Cherundolo-RWB, RWM?
Jonathan Spector-RB, RWB, LB?, LWB?, CB?, CDM?
Frankie Hejduk-RWB, LWB, RB, LB
Edgar Castillo-LWB, LWM?
Jonathan Bornstein-LWB, LWM, CF
Heath Pearce-LWB
Oguchi Onyewu-CB
Carlos Bocanegra-CB, LB
Jay DeMerit-CB
Chad Marshall-CB
Jimmy Conrad-CB, LB?
Jermaine Jones-CDM, CM
Michael Bradley-CM, CDM
Maurice Edu-CDM, CB?
Ricardo Clark-CDM
Benny Feilhaber-CM, CAM, RM?, LM?
Kyle Beckerman-CDM, CM
Jose Francisco Torres-CM, CAM, LM
Freddy Adu-CAM, LM, RM, CF, LWM?, RWM?
Robbie Rogers-LWM, RWM, CF, LM?, RM?
Stuart Holden-CAM, RM, LM, CM, LWM?, RWM?
Landon Donovan-CAM, LWM, RWM, CF
Clint Dempsey-CAM, RM, LM, FW
Santino Quaranta-CAM, RM, LM, CF
Jozy Altidore-FW
Charlie Davies-FW
Brian Ching-FW
Kenny Cooper-FW
Conor Casey-FW



Reserves:
Luis Robles-GK
Kasey Keller-GK
Frankie Simek-RB, RWB
Marvell Wynne-RWB, LWB?
John Thorrington-RWB, RWM
Brad Evans-RWM, RWB
Michael Orozco-CB, LB
Clarence Goodson-CB
Danny Califf-CB
Zak Whitbread-CB, LB
Geoff Cameron-CB, RB, LB, CDM, FW
Michael Parkhurst-CB
Anthony Wallace-LWB, RWB?
Michael Harrington-LWB
Brek Shea-LWB, LWM, FW
Tim Ward-LWB, RWB
Pablo Mastroeni-CDM
Logan Pause-CDM
Sam Cronin-CM, CDM
Danny Szetela-CM, RM, LM, RWB?
Sacha Kljestan-CAM, RM, LM, CM
Salvatore Zizzo-RWM, RM, CAM, CF
Davy Arnaud-RWM, CAM, CF
Jemal Johnson-RWM, CF
Jeremiah White-RWM, CF
Eddie Gaven-CAM, RM, LM, CF
Arturo Alvarez-LWM, RWM, CAM, CF
Chris Pontius-LWM, CF
Colin Clark-LWM
Chris Rolfe-CF, RWM
Robbie Findley-FW
Marcus Tracy-FW
Nate Jaqua-FW

[Eleven Bravo]

speculative line-ups for the games

Mexico (Away)
(3) GK Howard, Guzan, Perkins
(9) DF Spector, DeMerit, Bocanegra, Onyewu, Bornstein, Cherundolo, Marshall, Conrad, Hejduk
(7) MF R. Clark, Feilhaber, Bradley, Donovan, Dempsey, Rogers, Holden
(4) FW Altidore, Davies, Ching, Casey

-----------Altidore---Davies--------------
Donovan--------------------Dempsey-----
-------------Bradley----------------------
----------------R. Clark-------------------
----Bocanegra-------------------Spector-
-----------DeMerit----Onyewu------------
-----------------Howard------------------

Bench: Guzan, Conrad, Cherundolo, Feilhaber, Holden, Rogers, Ching


El Salvador (Home) & TnT (Away)
(3) GK Howard, Guzan, Perkins
(10) DF Spector, Bocanegra, DeMerit, Onyewu, Castillo, Marshall, Conrad, Hejduk, Bornstein, Cherundolo
(10) MF Donovan, Dempsey, Holden, Feilhaber, Bradley, R. Clark, Jones, Torres, Edu, Rogers
(4) FW Altidore, Davies, Ching, Adu, Cooper

v El Salvador
-----------Altidore---Davies-------------
Donovan-------------------Dempsey-----
-------------Bradley--------------------
-----------------Jones------------------
------Bocanegra-----------------Spector-
------------DeMerit----Onyewu----------
-----------------Howard-----------------

Bench: Perkins, Marshall, Castillo, R. Clark, Feilhaber, Adu, Cooper

v Trinidad
------------Altidore---Davies----------------
Donovan-------------------Dempsey---------
-------------Bradley-------------------------
-------------------Jones--------------------
-----Bocanegra----------------------Spector-
-------------DeMerit------Onyewu-----------
--------------------Howard------------------

Bench: Guzan, Conrad, Hejduk, R. Clark, Feilhaber, Holden, Ching


Honduras (Away) & Costa Rica (Home)
(3) GK Howard, Guzan, Robles
(9) DF Cherundolo, Spector, Castillo, Pearce, Bocanegra, Onyewu, DeMerit, Marshall, Conrad
(11) MF Rogers, Bradley, Holden, Torres, Adu, Edu, Jones, Donovan, Dempsey, Feilhaber, R. Clark
(4) FW Altidore, Davies, Cooper, Casey

v Honduras
-------------Altidore---Davies----------------
Donovan---------------------Dempsey--------
---------------Bradley------------------------
---------------------Jones--------------------
------Bocanegra----------------------Spector-
---------------DeMerit----Onyewu-------------
-------------------Howard---------------------

Bench: Guzan, Conrad, Cherundolo, Edu, Feilhaber, Rogers, Cooper


v Costa Rica (if we need the points)
---------------Altidore---Davies-----------------
Donovan----------------------Dempsey---------
---------------Bradley--------------------------
----------------------Jones---------------------
--------Bocanegra----------------------Spector-
---------------DeMerit------Onyewu-------------
---------------------Howard---------------------

Bench: Perkins, Marshall, Castillo, Torres, Holden, Adu, Casey

v Costa Rica (if we've qualified already)
------------Altidore----Davies--------------
Rogers--------------------Adu--------------
--------------Feilhaber----------------------
---------------------Edu--------------------
Castillo-----------------------------Spector--
-------------Marshall-----Onyewu------------
--------------------Guzan--------------------

Bench: Perkins, Conrad, Cherundolo, Pearce, Torres, Holden, Cooper
1. Holden (Feilhaber)
2. Torres (Rogers)
3. Cooper (Altidore)

[quitoamature]

The above entry does not present enough expiramenting.

demerit starting every game?
Carlos could easily get shifted to CB by his Club team.

I would like to see spector play left back at least once. Also Heyduk needs to play some.

At this point Adu is an after thought. lets see where he is at Christmas.

I really think Danny S will get a call.

Finally regarding Castillo and Jones.
I would not have a problem calling in Castillo After the Azteca game.
However Jones needs to wait until we have virtually qualified.

If i was coaching in Azteca:
Timmy
Dolo Gooch Boca Spector
Duece MikeB Benny LD
Jozy Chili

[Bonus_Game]

Originally Posted by Eleven Bravo

Reserves:
Luis Robles-GK
Kasey Keller-GK
Frankie Simek-RB, RWB
Marvell Wynne-RWB, LWB?
John Thorrington-RWB, RWM
Brad Evans-RWM, RWB
Michael Orozco-CB, LB
Clarence Goodson-CB
Danny Califf-CB
Zak Whitbread-CB, LB
Geoff Cameron-CB, RB, LB, CDM, FW
Michael Parkhurst-CB
Anthony Wallace-LWB, RWB?
Michael Harrington-LWB
Brek Shea-LWB, LWM, FW
Tim Ward-LWB, RWB
Pablo Mastroeni-CDM
Logan Pause-CDM
Sam Cronin-CM, CDM
Danny Szetela-CM, RM, LM, RWB?
Sacha Kljestan-CAM, RM, LM, CM
Salvatore Zizzo-RWM, RM, CAM, CF
Davy Arnaud-RWM, CAM, CF
Jemal Johnson-RWM, CF
Jeremiah White-RWM, CF
Eddie Gaven-CAM, RM, LM, CF
Arturo Alvarez-LWM, RWM, CAM, CF
Chris Pontius-LWM, CF
Colin Clark-LWM
Chris Rolfe-CF, RWM
Robbie Findley-FW
Marcus Tracy-FW
Nate Jaqua-FW

Lol?

[braun]

Originally Posted by quitoamature

The above entry does not present enough expiramenting.

demerit starting every game?
Carlos could easily get shifted to CB by his Club team.

I would like to see spector play left back at least once. Also Heyduk needs to play some.

At this point Adu is an after thought. lets see where he is at Christmas.

I really think Danny S will get a call.

Finally regarding Castillo and Jones.
I would not have a problem calling in Castillo After the Azteca game.
However Jones needs to wait until we have virtually qualified.

If i was coaching in Azteca:
Timmy
Dolo Gooch Boca Spector
Duece MikeB Benny LD
Jozy Chili

Which means, that Adu will not be called in until we clinch the berth.
Don't know why you say this about Jones and Castillo, although I think it will be moot, because your lineup is a solution, with the exception of Feilhaber (who cannot be relied upon at Dmid vs Mexico's A team). In his place will be Ricardo Clark, no doubt. Mastro in reserve. Jones will not be healed. Castillo is not an upgrade at LB when you have Spector to play there.

[MassYank]

Originally Posted by braun

Which means, that Adu will not be called in until we clinch the berth.
Don't know why you say this about Jones and Castillo, although I think it will be moot, because your lineup is a solution, with the exception of Feilhaber (who cannot be relied upon at Dmid vs Mexico's A team). In his place will be Ricardo Clark, no doubt. Mastro in reserve. Jones will not be healed. Castillo is not an upgrade at LB when you have Spector to play there.

Your right.

Adu is so far off the radar right now it's not even funny. He may see some time after clinching a WC berth. He may in fact make the WC squad, however I doubt he will see the field much, if at all. He must have a breakout season in Europe to get any consideration.

Like most of you, I think we will see the Spain lineup for the rest of the qualifiers that matter. I also believe that the Spain lineup will be our starting 11 for SA as well. (Maybe Jones supplants Ricardo)

The only thing up for grabs at this point are sub and reserve spots.

[TrueCrew]

I think we can break it down into 3 categories: The Core, the Fringe, and the Outside.

The Core: If healthy, these players will certainly be called in if the game is a big one.

13 players. If healthy, and we need them, they'll be there.

GK: Howard, Guzan
D: Bocanegra, Onyewu, Cherundolo, DeMerit, Spector
M: Donovan, Dempsey, Bradley, Feilhaber, Jones
F: Altidore, Davies, Ching

The Fringe: These guys will fight to round out the WCQ rosters, and the 2010 roster.

Many will appear and make the final roster, some won't. Health, roster makeup (# of D, M, etc), and form over the next year will say a lot.

GK: Perkins, Hahnemann + (Keller and Friedel if they want to).
D: Hejduk, Bornstein, Pearce, Califf, Marshall, Conrad
M: Clark, Edu, Torres, Beasley, Kljestan, Holden, Rogers, Adu, Mastroeni
F: Adu, Cooper (McBride if he changes his mind).

The Outside: These guys have an outside shot, but really need to shine or get some breaks.

GK: Busch, Robles, Pickens
D: Wynne, Simek, Goodson, Parkhurst, Whitbread, Cameron, Boswell, Orozco, Castillo, Franklin, Lichaj, Vidal.
M: Quaranta, Beckerman, Szetela, White, J. Johnson, Gaven, Pause, Carroll
F: E. Johnson, Tracy, Findley, Wolff, Buddle

Yes, we could take it out a bit more, but I think this is it. And it's close to just the guys on the fringe.

[Adiaga Two]

I would use the two-game international dates to get the Euro players in, send them back after the first match, and run out the fringe players for the T&T away game and the Costa Rica home game.

Vs. Mexico (starts at)

1-Howard(GK)
2-Wynne
3-Bocanegra(LB)
4-Torres
5-Onyewu(CB)
6-Cherundolo(RB)
7-Rogers
8-Dempsey(RM)
9-Davies(CF)
10-Donovan(LM)
11-Ching
12-Bradley(CM)
13-Bornstein
14-R. Clark(CM)
15-DeMerit(CB)
16-Feilhaber
17-Altidore(CF)
18-Guzan

Vs. El Salvador

1-Howard(GK)
2-Wynne
3-Bocanegra(CB)
4-Torres
5-Onyewu(CB)
6-Pearce(LB)
7-Rogers
8-Dempsey(RM)
9-Davies(CF)
10-Donovan(LM)
11-Ching(CF)
12-Bradley(CM)
13-R. Clark
14-Edu
15-Feilhaber(CM)
16-Spector(RB)
17-Adu
18-Guzan

Vs. Trinidad & Tobago

1-Guzan(GK)
2-Hejduk(RB)
3-Bornstein(LB)
4-Torres(AM)
5-Marshall(CB)
6-Edu(DM)
7-Rogers(LM)
8-Holden(RM)
9-Cooper(CF)
10-Donovan(SS)
11-Adu
12-Conrad(CB)
13-Clark
14-Findley
15-Orozco
16-Cronin
17-Wynne
18-Pickens

Vs. Honduras

1-Howard(GK)
2-Pearce
3-Bocanegra(LB)
4-Jones
5-Onyewu(CB)
6-Cherundolo
7-Beasley
8-Dempsey(RM)
9-Davies(CF)
10-Donovan(LM)
11-Altidore(CF)
12-Bradley(CM)
13-Edu(CM)
14-Conrad
15-DeMerit(CB)
16-Spector(RB)
17-Torres
18-Guzan

Vs. Costa Rica

1-Howard(GK)
2-Pearce(LB)
3-Marshall(CB)
4-Torres(AM)
5-Jones(DM)
6-Cherundolo(RB)
7-Beasley(LM)
8-Holden(RM)
9-Cooper
10-Donovan(SS)
11-Ching(CF)
12-Conrad(CB)
13-Bornstein
14-Cameron
15-Convey
16-Orozco
17-Rogers
18-Guzan

[Adiaga Two]

Winter Camp

Forwards: Ching, Casey, Cooper, Donovan, Tracy, Pontius

Midfield: R. Clark, Feilhaber, Rogers, Holden, Quaranta, Beckerman, C. Clark, Kljestan, Cronin, Evans, Convey

Defense: Marshall, Conrad, Parkhurst, Califf, Wynne, Bornstein, Pearce, Hejduk, Cameron, Freeman

Goal: Perkins, Hesmer, Pickens

[Mille_RULZ]

I'd approach it game by game.

e.g....we win in Azteca...that changes everything. We can clinch a berth in September.

That allows the october games to be more experimental.