2010 Seeding Formula: August 2006 update

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by scaryice, Aug 16, 2006.

  1. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    (crossposted to my blog, Climbing the Ladder)

    The new FIFA rankings are out for August.


    Top 7 teams seeded

    (South Africa automatically seeded as hosts)

    Code:
            		Total	WC	FIFA
    1	Brazil  	61.3	29.3	32
    2	Italy   	58.3	27.3	31
    3	England 	54.3	26.3	28
    3	Germany 	54.3	30.3	24
    5	France  	52.3	23.3	29
    6	Spain   	51.3	25.3	26
    7	Argentina	51.0	21.0	30
    				
    8	Portugal	47.3	22.3	25
    9	Netherlands	41.7	14.7	27
    10	Mexico  	36.3	19.3	17
    11	Switzerland	35.3	15.3	20
    12	Ukraine 	34.7	16.7	18
    13	Sweden  	32.3	19.3	13
    14	Czech   	29.0	6.0	23
    15	Paraguay	25.7	11.7	14
    16	Ecuador 	25.0	17.0	8
    17	Nigeria 	24.7	2.7	22
    18	Cameroon	24.0	3.0	21
    19	Denmark 	23.7	7.7	16
    19	USA     	23.7	13.7	10
    21	Uruguay 	21.7	2.7	19
    22	Cote d'Ivoire	21.0	6.0	15
    22	Croatia 	21.0	9.0	12
    24	Australia	18.3	11.3	7
    25	Korea   	17.7	15.7	2
    26	Japan   	17.3	13.3	4
    27	Costa Rica	13.3	8.3	5
    28	Iran    	11.3	5.3	6
    29	Guinea  	11.0	0.0	11
    30	Romania 	9.0	0.0	9
    31	South Africa	4.0	3.0	1
    32	Guatemala	3.0	0.0	3
    
    
    Ecuador/Guatemala/Korea replaced Colombia/Uzbekistan/Honduras.


    Much of the following was originally written by eldiablito, so credit to him. Also thanks to him for doing this last time for many months. Apparently he hasn't been online in a month, so I've decided to do it tonight. Plus, I'm up really late when the rankings come out (3 AM central time).

    FAQ

    Why is this list different than FIFA's Coca-Cola rankings?

    Because Fifa's Coca-Cola rankings are only part of the complex seeding formula.

    What is the seeding formula used for?

    The seeding formula is used to determine which 8 countries receive seeds. Those 8 teams are heads of each of the 8 groups in the world cup. By being seeded, they get the luxury of not having to play another seeded team until the knockout stage.

    What is the seeding formula exactly?

    The complex formula takes into account the performance at the last 2 world cups and the FIFA rankings.

    Part A: World Cup performance = (2002*1+2006*2)/3
    Part B: FIFA Ranking = (12/2007 rank+12/2008 rank+11/2009 rank)/3
    Part A + Part B = world cup seeding formula

    For the purposes of this showing you the current standings in this thread, the current FIFA rank will count as all three years.

    How is the world cup performance determined?

    0 points are awarded if the country failed to qualify that year.
    8 points are awarded for the bottom 8 teams in the group stage.
    9 points are awarded for the top 8 teams in the group stage who didn't advance.

    All the countries that advanced to the knockout stage are placed from 1st place to 16th place. 1st place (champs) receives 32 points. 2nd place receives 31 points. 3rd place receives 30 points. etc. All the way to 16th place which receives 17 points.

    How are the points for FIFA ranking awarded?

    Similarly to above. First, all 32 teams that qualify are ranked by their FIFA ranking. The best is given 32 points. The worst 1 point.

    How do you pick which 32 countries to run the seeding formula?

    I pick the countries based on their FIFA ranking by federation. For example, the best 14 UEFA teams by FIFA ranking since 14 UEFA teams will qualify. This is done primarily for two reasons. It keeps the criteria objective and it runs the formula with the worst-case scenario in mind.

    14-UEFA
    4.5-CONMEBOL
    3.5-CONCACAF
    4.5-AFC
    5.0-CAF
    0.5-OFC

    Are you sure that FIFA will use this seeding formula?

    No, it might change slightly. For 2006 they only used the previous 2 World Cups instead of 3 like before. But they've been using the same basic formula since 1994.

    Previous Editions

    July 2006
     
  2. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    Using the 2006 system:

    Pot 1: Argentina, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Italy, South Africa, Spain
    Pot 2: Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine
    Pot 3: Australia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Iran, Japan, Korea Republic, Mexico, USA
    Pot 4: Cameroon, Cote d'Ivoire, Ecuador, Guinea, Nigeria, Paraguay, Uruguay
    Special pot: Romania

    Group A: South Africa, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Ecuador
    Group B: Brazil, Sweden, Korea Republic, Nigeria
    Group C: Germany, Czech Republic, Australia, Guinea
    Group D: France, Portugal, Mexico, Cote d'Ivoire
    Group E: Spain, Ukraine, Iran, Cameroon
    Group F: Italy, Denmark, Japan, Paraguay
    Group G: England, Netherlands, USA, Uruguay
    Group H: Argentina, Croatia, Guatemala, Romania
     
  3. dcuni_ted

    dcuni_ted Member

    Jul 16, 2000
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That draw would suck for the U.S.:(
     
  4. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    Group G is pretty nasty. Group D is a postive GoD. Group A is a total joke, E is pretty inoffensive too.

    Group C sucks pretty bad from Australia's point of view.
     
  5. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
    Dont forget that these teams also have to qualify for World Cup :rolleyes:
     
  6. Guatefc

    Guatefc New Member

    Jun 1, 2005
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala

    im flattered that you think guatemala will be in South africa based on your numbers and research

    i really hope

    im a big fan of your blog and stats, you work really hard
     
  7. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    I just pick the highest teams in the FIFA rankings.
     
  8. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    Well, duh.
     

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