[SCUFANTASTIC]

Originally Posted by cpthomas

I know that you got the change from 8 regions to 10 from the message the NCAA released from Women's Soccer Committee chair Paul Bradshaw...

The shift was not from 8 regions to 10. It was from 6 to 8. So, there are 8 regions, not 10.

MY bad, believing what I read again. Not sure how you conclude that this isn't Bradshaw's fault, since its his name at the bottom.

[justdoit]

This is not the record of a team that should make the NCAA tourny. 1 quality win(VT) and the game was at home. Alabama A & M and Gardner Webb are you kidding me???

Duke (8-8-4,4-4-2)
Aug 23, 2009GARDNER-WEBBW3-0485Aug 28, 2009vs UNC GreensboroL0-1587Aug 30, 2009vs UCFL2-3496Sep 03, 2009UNC-WILMINGTONW3-0398Sep 05, 2009UNLVT0-0341Sep 11, 2009at #14/14 FloridaL1-22251Sep 13, 2009ALABAMA A&MW8-0178Sep 18, 2009AUBURNW2-1630Sep 20, 2009LSUT2-2783Sep 24, 2009*at North CarolinaL1-22428Oct 01, 2009*at Wake ForestT0-0547Oct 04, 2009*MARYLANDL0-4475Oct 11, 2009*FLORIDA STATET0-0560Oct 15, 2009*MIAMIW4-0150Oct 18, 2009*at ClemsonW2-0328Oct 22, 2009*VIRGINIAL0-1421Oct 25, 2009*VIRGINIA TECHW4-1536Oct 29, 2009*at Boston CollegeL0-1443Nov 01, 2009*at NC StateW2-0341
Nov 4, 2009 * ACC Tourny L 0-2

[DemitriMaximoffX]

The Bubble Ladder bows down to no man. Updated through games of Wednesday.

Let's say goodbye to Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Colorado who all needed wins, but didn't get them, heartbreaking losses for the Vols and Buffs in extra time tonight.

Let's also bid farewell to Virginia from the bubble ladder. The Cavs are going home, but the shootout loss counts as a draw for the Cavs, and that should be enough to seal their place in the NCAA Tournament. Also, it's a fond trip off the ladder for Auburn whose win over Ole Miss today should lock the Tigers in as the SEC's sixth rep.

Finally, let's welcome Oklahoma State back to the party. The Cowgirls's win over Nebraska today tosses them back into the bubble discussion, but they need a win over Missouri to truly get in the conversation.

BUBBLE LADDER - Version 3.0

1 - San Diego
2 - Rutgers
3 - St. John's
4 - Wisconsin
5 - Purdue
6 - Missouri
7 - Villanova
8 - Minnesota
9 - Indiana
10 - Colorado College
11 - Duke
12 - Arizona State
------CURRENT PROJECTED CUTOFF LINE------
13 - San Diego State
14 - Dayton
15 - Oklahoma State
16 - Kansas
17 - Michigan State
18 - UAB
19 - Memphis
20 - Illinois
21 - UNC Greensboro
22 - Oregon
23 - Charlotte
24 - Northeastern
25 - Hofstra
26 - Samford

[firefanman]

Indiana. One good win and a poor finish? I know they had a good record but aren't there other teams below them, on your list , with the same profile (one good win and record) more worthy? They would not even make the B10 tourney if they lose Fri night.

[IceDog]

Originally Posted by firefanman

Indiana. One good win and a poor finish? I know they had a good record but aren't there other teams below them, on your list , with the same profile (one good win and record) more worthy? They would not even make the B10 tourney if they lose Fri night.

firefanman: not sure if you realize there is no B10 tourney...

[firefanman]

That's my point. I should ahve been clearer. If there was a tourney.
I don't have anything against IU. Just wondering if teams who have played a better non conference are being penalized

[cpthomas]

In 2007, of the top 45 in the end-of-season RPI, 11 were conference automatic qualifiers. This meant that if the NCAA used only the RPI, team #45 would have been the last to get an at large position. Two teams ranked better than #45 did not get in: #37 and #40. Thus the NCAA was willing to bump a team ranked 8 positions below the threshold. Two teams ranked more pooly than #45 did get in: #46 and #48. Thus the NCAA was willing to add a team ranked 3 positions above the threshold.

In 2008, of the top 47 in the end-of-season RPI, 13 were conference champions. this meant that if the NCAA used only the RPI, team #47 would have been the last to get in. Two teams ranked better than #47 did not get in: #40 and #47. Thus the NCAA was willing to bump a team ranked 7 positions below the threshold. Two teams ranked more poorly than #47 did get in: #48 and #49. Thus the NCAA was willing to add a team ranked 2 positions above the threshold.

In 2009, of the top 44 in the end-of-season RPI, at most 10 teams will be conference champions. Seven definitely will be, with three not certain (Big 12, CUSA, and Atlantic 10). Thus the threshold will be somewhere between #41 (seven conference champions from top 41 teams) and #44 (ten conference champions from top 44 teams). It's tougher to get an at large position this year than it has been in the past two years.

[DemitriMaximoffX]

My eternal gratitude to the upset minded teams that helped clear out a lot of the bubble today. Makes composing this ladder difficult as opposed to just plain excruciating.

Let's bid farewell to Kansas (victim of Oklahoma State's good run), Indiana, Illinois, Northeastern, Hofstra, UAB, Samford, and UNC Greensboro.

Let's bump up Wisconsin and Minnesota to lock status.

We're now looking at sixteen teams for ten spots. Dayton or Charlotte will win the A10 auto-bid. San Diego State may win the Mountain West auto-bid. Oklahoma State may win the Big XII auto-bid. Memphis may win the CUSA auto-bid.

Bubble Ladder - The Pentultimate

1 - Purdue (36) [In with a win over Iowa.]
2 - Dayton (31) [Probably in either way.]
3 - St. John's (42) [Probably in without a lot of movement below them]
4 - Rutgers (40) [See above]
5 - Oklahoma State (48) [Probably 75/25 with a loss]
6 - San Diego (41) [Benefit of the doubt, but I'm not sure...]
7 - Michigan State (46) [Bonus points from Ohio State helps]
8 - Missouri (50) [Rooting hard against teams below]
9 - Arizona State (35) [In with a win over Oregon, with a loss, shaky]
10 - Memphis (39) [Probably needs a win]
------CURRENT PROJECTED CUTOFF LINE------
11 - Colorado College (38) [Results working against them]
12 - San Diego State (37) [URPI says yes, but I don't see it]
13 - Villanova (44) [Looking bleak with St. John's run]
14 - Duke (45) [Got benefit of the doubt in similar situation two years ago]
15 - Oregon (47) [Beat ASU and pray]
16 - Charlotte (43) [Probably needs a shootout loss to have a prayer wo/ auto bid]

[cpthomas]

DMX, I'll be posting the daily unofficial RPI report later today. I got distracted by going to the Portland v San Diego game last night.

[justdoit]

Women's Soccer is starting to look like the BCS. Teams like Northeastern and Hofstra, Charlotte and San Diego should be in the dance. Justbecause their conferences are not BCS conferencess they should not be punished. Anyone can lose to a top team and it is just not fair to the little guys. That can compete with the big schools.