[TKORL]

Originally Posted by thebigman

best hardmen are south american? are u mad?

look at most german players that arent striker in history lol

in the uk weve had some proper hard knocks too? who has south america had?

diego simeone and edmundo....lol

I'm referring to the current crop of players.

[thebigman]

Originally Posted by TKORL

I'm referring to the current crop of players.

who are these hardmen then?

[Macksam]

Originally Posted by thebigman

who are these hardmen then?

Define Hardmen? In all honesty, when you first said the term, I had terrible thoughts in my head. Terrible thoughts...

[Dominican Lou]

Originally Posted by Macksam

Lol, still a great commercial though. Seeing that makes me want to strap the armour back on and get back to the gridiron.

They can do something similar with soccer. In the basketball scenes from that video, there was a part where those two guys lost their cool and started getting in each other's faces. Isn't that what street ball has turned into? An egotsitical driven game of man hood that's full of trash talk? Funny thing is, whenever I play futsal over here, the same kind of crap occurs. Sometimes the tempers boil over to a point where security has to get involved. I guess my point is they can portray futsal with the same testosterone driven intensity that you see in a game of pick up or street ball.

I'd rather they don't.

I can only speak about the commercials in Latin America, but they tend to highlight the emotion and beauty of the game, not so much its aggression and violence. I'm down with that. No need to be a knuckle-dragging moron.

Examples:

Quilmes (Argentinian beer)

YouTube - Quilmes Benditos

YouTube - Quilmes Benditos

Coke

YouTube - commercial Peru soccer futbol Sudemosla Juntos coke

YouTube - commercial Peru soccer futbol Sudemosla Juntos coke

[TKORL]

Originally Posted by thebigman

who are these hardmen then?

Are you serious?

[MarioKempes]

Originally Posted by Bolivianfuego

Carlos tevez used to play in argentina as a child on the streets for money, look at him now.

[TKORL]

Originally Posted by MarioKempes

My favorite Neanderthal! Second is Puyol.

[Antonio81]

Originally Posted by thebigman

best hardmen are south american? are u mad?

look at most german players that arent striker in history lol

in the uk weve had some proper hard knocks too? who has south america had?

diego simeone and edmundo....lol

Most (decent) football countries have hardmen. Like you said, they tend to be more brutes and less of players. Keane, Simeone, Gentile, Gattuso, etc. may have been good players but weren´t known for their technique.

[Roger Allaway]

Somebody who was known as a very hard tackler and ball-winner, but who did have technique, was Johan Neeskens.

[TKORL]

Originally Posted by Antonio81

Most (decent) football countries have hardmen. Like you said, they tend to be more brutes and less of players. Keane, Simeone, Gentile, Gattuso, etc. may have been good players but weren´t known for their technique.

Real hardmen have both. Look at Lassana Diarra, Mascherano, Redondo, Senna, Aurelio, Gilberto etc.