[TKORL]

Originally Posted by Finnish Taktix

To carry on on the comparison.

As everybody might know, Rooney tracks back a lot more than Ibrahimovic. This is a useful asset at any time, especially against tough opposition, helping the midfield out. In playmaking and defending. What Ibrahimovic gives to playmaking in itself isn't as much as Rooney, mostly coming for the ball, dropping it back. But every now and then he does the creative; challenges the defender, maybe another, and gives the ball wide. The balls gone through at least one line of defense. So, defending, Ibrahimovic is lazy, meaning that Rooney is the more "hard-working" of these two. Their style of contributing to the playmaking is pretty much the opposite of each other. Rooney is either the playmaker or the "visionist", while Ibrahimovic is the trickster, maybe not actually thinking of the playmaking itself but does it either way.
Their scoring is also something worth discussing, as strikers, they will be finding themselves in scoring chances more often than other players!
Ibrahimovic is the colder of the two. The best way to say the difference between these two is to say that Rooney seems to lose chances every now and then, while Ibrahimovic will be missing chances every now and then. Rooney tends to hit the ball badly or something in the like in the semi-rare occasion. Ibrahimovic on the other hand would never mishit in anyway. Zlatan has a better kicking technique as well, which contributes a lot to this difference. Don't get me wrong, their both lethal in front of goal, but Zlatan will always take the upper hand, though some might say statistics say against me. Statistics could imply to the fact that Zlatan is missing more than what Wayne is losing chances.

I'd be greatful if anyone could mention any certain attributes that should be discussed because I don't remember everything, although I am a soccer player myself

Ibra is a no.9, and Rooney is a no. 10, Rooney should be tracking back more than Ibra, that's not a credit to Rooney...

[ranny fash]

Originally Posted by JamesBH11

I agree with most points you made, except that calling Rooney a "playmaker" or "visionist" is way OFF.

Rooney, shared with Raul the same character, all rounded , play deep & wide and very hardworking type! But they are NOT playemekers period. They could help team in back track, in build up but they do not DICTATE the playing rythm, style or the team.

Ibra is clearly a "better" player in term of skills and doing what best as a forward (he could score and make asiists - more than Rooney surely)

Watch England's last game against Croatia, then tell everyone Rooney isn't a playmaker!

Some of the passes, touches, runs and plays he makes are plays that no other player would have thought of. That, to me, is a player with outstanding vision. It varies depending on how he is told to play in every game, of course.

[JamesBH11]

Originally Posted by ranny fash

Watch England's last game against Croatia, then tell everyone Rooney isn't a playmaker!

Some of the passes, touches, runs and plays he makes are plays that no other player would have thought of. That, to me, is a player with outstanding vision. It varies depending on how he is told to play in every game, of course.

you can not judge a player style on 1 particular game or so. I watch Rooney since 2003/ he is a very good support striker no more no less/ He coud play as lone striker or wide forward but not really excel in those position.

we can say, yes Rooney is a very good striker with visions sure - but not necessary a playmaker type

[three lions]

Originally Posted by JamesBH11

you can not judge a player style on 1 particular game or so. I watch Rooney since 2003/ he is a very good support striker no more no less/ He coud play as lone striker or wide forward but not really excel in those position.

we can say, yes Rooney is a very good striker with visions sure - but not necessary a playmaker type

what an utter load of toss.

[Harry Boulton]

Rooney can be a play-maker, he's just not a classic one.. To mind I'd say players like Rui Costa, Veron, Riquelme, Iniesta and Modric are players that are typical play-makers.


Rooney does a similar role, but he performs it differently. Where as Veron and co. seek to manipulate the game through ball retention, and intelligent passing, Rooney chooses to force the game through pace, power and skill. They all ocuppy similar area's of the pitch though, and Rooney is a much bigger goal threat.

You don't catch the likes of Veron, Riquelme and Modric socring 20+ goals a season.

[gmonn]

Originally Posted by Harry Boulton

Rooney can be a play-maker, he's just not a classic one.. To mind I'd say players like Rui Costa, Veron, Riquelme, Iniesta and Modric are players that are typical play-makers.


Rooney does a similar role, but he performs it differently. Where as Veron and co. seek to manipulate the game through ball retention, and intelligent passing, Rooney chooses to force the game through pace, power and skill. They all ocuppy similar area's of the pitch though, and Rooney is a much bigger goal threat.

You don't catch the likes of Veron, Riquelme and Modric socring 20+ goals a season.

Aren't you comparing midfielders to a forward? Ibra makes plenty of plays also, and scores plenty of goals.

[TKORL]

Originally Posted by JamesBH11

you can not judge a player style on 1 particular game or so. I watch Rooney since 2003/ he is a very good support striker no more no less/ He coud play as lone striker or wide forward but not really excel in those position.

we can say, yes Rooney is a very good striker with visions sure - but not necessary a playmaker type

Correct, he's a good support striker but no playmaker. Then again the EPL rarely sees playmakers so they wouldn't really know what you're referring to

[Harry Boulton]

Originally Posted by gmonn

Aren't you comparing midfielders to a forward? Ibra makes plenty of plays also, and scores plenty of goals.

Yes, but that's the point I'm making. Play-makers tend to be midfielders, not forwards. Rooney can be a play-maker of sorts, but he's far more advanced than most others tend to be.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by TKORL

Then again the EPL rarely sees playmakers so they wouldn't really know what you're referring to

Cesc
Dunn
Deco
Cole
Lampard
Arteta
Murphy
Aquilani
Gerrard
Benayoun
Barry
Carrick
Scholes
Geovanni
Cattermole
Huddlestone
Modric
Koumas
to name some off the top of my head.

[lanman]

Lee Cattermole is not, and never will be, a playmaker. He's about as far removed from one as a midfielder can be.