[Paul_NL]

Bert van Marwijk

Fortuna:

Results:

97: 11e, 98: 7e, 99: 10

Developed players:

Patrick Paauwe: BMG
Fredje Bouma: Aston Villa

Fortuna after Van Marwijk left:

Bankrupt, team without transfervalue

Feyenoord

Results:

2001: 2e, 2002: 3e: 2003: 3e, 2004: 3e
UEFA Cup because of Van Hooijdonk

Developed players

None, all were worse when they left

Results after Van Marwijk left

Almost bankrupt, team without transfervalue

Borussia Dortmund


Results

2005: 7e, 2006: 7e 2007: Fired after begin in relegation zone

Developed players

None, all players were worst then when he came. All stars left

Dortmund after van Marwijk left

Almost bankrupt, team with no transfervalue

Feyenoord

2006-2007 under Erwin Koeman 19 games - 36 points
2007-2008 under Bert van Marwijk 19 games - 36 points

Games

Zo 19 augustus 2007 FC Utrecht - Feyenoord 0-3 good
Zo 26 augustus 2007 Feyenoord - NAC 5-0 good
Za 01 september 2007 Feyenoord - Willem II 2-0 good second half bad
Zo 16 september 2007 Roda JC - Feyenoord 1-3 Good comeback
Zo 23 september 2007 PSV - Feyenoord 4-0 bad outplayed
Za 29 september 2007 Feyenoord - SC Heerenveen 2-0 good second half bad
Zo 07 oktober 2007 Vitesse - Feyenoord 0-1 Won with luck
Za 20 oktober 2007 Feyenoord - Excelsior 1-0 bad
Za 27 oktober 2007 FC Twente - Feyenoord 2-0 bad
Zo 04 november 2007 Feyenoord - De Graafschap 2-0 bad
Zo 11 november 2007 Feyenoord - ajax 2-2 good Still a tie
Zo 25 november 2007 FC Groningen - Feyenoord 3-2 Bad
Zo 02 december 2007 Feyenoord - Heracles Almelo 6-0 good, Best game under Bert
Zo 09 december 2007 VVV - Feyenoord 0-0 Bad
Zo 23 december 2007 NEC - Feyenoord 0-2 Bad Bad play
Zo 26 december 2007 Feyenoord - Sparta 2-0 Bad Bad play
Zo 30 december 2007 SC Heerenveen - Feyenoord 1-1 bad Joke, lucky with tie
Za 12 januari 2008 Feyenoord - PSV 0-1 bad Joke
Vr 18 januari 2008 Excelsior - Feyenoord 2-1 bad Joke

8 good games - 11 bad

Developed players

You are a funny guy aren´t you?

New players for Bert


Andwelé Slory van SBV Excelsior
Luigi Bruins van SBV Excelsior
Tim de Cler van AZ Alkmaar
Giovanni van Bronckhorst van FC Barcelona
Kevin Hofland van VfL Wolfsburg
Roy Makaay van Bayern München
Michael Mols van ADO Den Haag
Chun-Soo Lee van Ulsan Hyundai
Michael Jansen van Vitesse
Sahin BVB Loan

Regulars under Koeman who left

Ali Boussaboun naar Al-Wakrah Sport Club
Romeo Castelen naar Hamburger SV
Angelos Charisteas naar 1. FC Nürnberg
Christian Gyan quit
Pierre van Hooijdonk quit
Stein Huysegems naar FC Twente
Joonas Kolkka naar NAC Breda
Patrick Lodewijks quit
Alfred Schreuder naar FC Twente
Royston Drenthe naar Real Madrid

So basically he switched Castelen and Drenthe for Sahin, Bruins, Slory, Lee, De Cler, Hofland, Gio and Makaay and still he does not improve the point total

There is also no player who has become a better player under 8 months under Bert

He must be the worst coach ever, the guy suck so much it isn´t even funny

[CoAdriaanse]

this is the worst post ever. be gone

[feyenoord_for_life]

It has to be said that I find Feyenoords play extremely cautious and nervous. They dont defend well, nor do they attack with flair. I find their play confusing only that I dont see any conviction or clear playing style. I think we have the midfield to play attractive football, and with Makaay up front, it shouldnt be a problem.

However, I am proud of the fact that unlike PSV or 020, we have consistently played with 9 to 10 Dutchmen in the starting 11. You can take as little as you want out of that statement, but Feyenoord has the talent to compete for the eredivisie title (i dont think they will win), but it is refreshing to see an almost all-dutch side at the top.

[Paul_NL]

4-5-1 counterfootball

[Paul_NL]

Originally Posted by CoAdriaanse

this is the worst post ever. be gone

If you know nothing to say, don´t bother to post.

[feyenoord_for_life]

Originally Posted by Paul_NL

4-5-1 counterfootball

thank you .. sarcasm is difficult over the internet. im actually agreeing with part of what your saying ... i know ..... im just saying that im dissapointed that van Marwijk is playing so cowardly.

[Paul_NL]

I know, I was just saying that he is a coward

There also have been no players that he developed for the European top teams despite begin a coach for 10 years

[CoAdriaanse]

Originally Posted by Paul_NL

If you know nothing to say, don´t bother to post.

i;m sorry but ur post doenst make sense.
for example leaving out RVP and nuri sahin?WTF?!!?!?!?!

this teams core has only been toghether for 5 months, with constant injurys of starters such as slory, vlaar, hofs and tiendalli.

ur post implies that BVM made those clubs go bankrupt...NONESENSE!!!

u say that koeman and BVM have the same points after the same amount of rounds. did u ever take in consideration that the competition might have been harder to play in. assuming that ajax and psv didn't really lose any power but also have around the same points. than again it could mean the smaller teams in the ED are getting better.

when bvm when to borrusia the team was sold out. all the good players went off after the uefa cup final. not to mention it was the technical staff not BVM that bought the players.

2nd and 3rd isnt bad for feyenoord.

what ever happend to: "Winning bad matches can still make u champion"

in exception of amrabat...what player did develop in the last 4 months???
SIEM DE JONG??? overated
BRADLEY????been here for 2 years now.
SCHONE??? well known talent.

allot of young talents play a bunch of good matches. so do fer and wijnaldum.

so this is utmost evidence, that ur story is full of flaws...and IMO the worst post ever.

[Paul_NL]

1) 3 out of 3 so far, Fortuna, BVB and Feyenoord, bankrupt and a team without a future
2) BVB went bankrupt because they missed European football twice, who was in charge both years?
3) If you know anything about soccer you wouldn´t use Van Persie because it makes even more clear that Van Marwijk sucks
4) Sahin is loaned out and benched now. He is no superstar, not even close
5) Small teams getting better in one year. Tell me it was a joke, please because if it´s not I have to call someone

[johan neeskens]

I don't think Van Marwijk is that bad a coach. The only thing I don't like about him is that he does seem to prefer ultra-conservative football.

He's the big favourite to take over the Holland job as well which is kind of worrying.