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Originally Posted by west_ham
RIP John Lyall.
He was manager when I started supporting West Ham, in fact for the first 14 years of my life, which makes him a manager I can never forget.
I mentioned recently that Ron Greenwood was manager during West Ham's greatest years, but now here we are talking about John having the greater success. So, in an attempt to avoid sounding a bit hypocritical, I think John brought great success in a way that continued what Ron started. Both achieved things that the other didn't and put enough years in to promote them to the West Ham hall of legends.
May the future deliver to us more managers like Ron and John.
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Mate its not hypocritical at all its 100% correct in my opinion. Ron was West Ham and everything good at present West Ham was started by Ron Greenwood, prior to that the Cassetteris gang. Ron was a football genius who put the basic plan into action. Ron was very much from the old Victorian upbringing School of life. Players tended to find Ron very reserved and sometimes a bit unapproachable. John Learn't everything from Ron he was the perfect student. They would talk football until 2 or 3 in the morning sometimes. Everything John acheived was from the master plan put into practice by Ron. John was far more open to the players and not as shy/reserved around the fans. Both are West Ham legends respected and loved by all Hammers. John our most successful manager often said he owed it all to Ron.
The one thing that hasn't changed is John was treated absolutely terrible by the then board. Being a privately owned club they just didn't have a clue even then.
RIP John Lyall.