MLS in running to buy USL

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  1. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/comment/article/284776--mls-in-running-to-buy-usl

     
  2. Onionsack

    Onionsack BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 21, 2003
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. The 92nd Fish

    The 92nd Fish Member

    Jan 16, 2007
    London, England
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    If it bought it, it'd probably plunder the best markets left, which lets be honest in the present USL is Montreal and maybe maybe Minneapolis and then use the rest of it as minor league affiliates to replace the old reserve league. They could also use USL as a test bed for new franchises, such as say Vegas to see how receptive they are to football, anything over like 4,000 for USL and you know you're onto a winner.
     
  4. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    Couldn't MLS use USL as a farm system of sorts? In presume they wouldn't be able to call up and send down players during the season due to FIFA rules, but wouldn't it be a good way of helping develop young players?
     
  5. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the article:

    "In what amounts to a Major League Soccer fan’s wet dream, the lower-level United Soccer Leagues has been put up for sale and two league sources have confirmed that MLS has inquired into purchasing it."

    I wonder which fan it is. It's a shame the author didn't publish his name.

    :rolleyes:

    Sorry, but this "story" seems about as likely as something posted on MLS Rumors Rumors.
     
  6. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Vancouver, Portland and to a certain extent Montreal must be losing their minds today, after paying 35 million for expansion when they could have just gotten in for free.
     
  7. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    How the hell did you come up with that?


    Please try using facts.
     
  8. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Fascinating leap of logic here.
     
  9. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It's quite easy to figure out. Just use a little creativity.


    Easy, its too early in the morning.
     
  10. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope, it's true. From what I understand from a couple of different sources, MLS was one of four or five interested parties but, as the linked story says, probably won't be the one buying.

    The most likely buyer at this point, though, is someone whose name MLS expansion followers will recognize.

    Yeah, good luck with that.
     
  11. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001

    :D ...
     
  12. BoilerSpecial

    BoilerSpecial Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    Kaneohe, HI
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't MLS, as a whole, closer than they have ever been to economic viability and profit? I would think that this would severely hurt that goal. Though I don't think this would happen.
     
  13. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fixed for accuracy.
     
  14. The 92nd Fish

    The 92nd Fish Member

    Jan 16, 2007
    London, England
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    No, no it's not. Even if MLS bought USL, they'd still charge any franchises moving upwards an expansion fee, simply because the likes of Kraft, Hunt et al will never let anyone into MLS for fee after the amounts they've sunk into the league. Plus it's just bad business sense full stop to start admitting teams into the league for free, besides even if MLS owned USL, it doesn't own the rights to the individual teams, so it's up to the individual investors.
     
  15. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's allergic to facts, reality and common sense.

    If this is real (and yeah, an author who uses the term wet dream just begs to not be taken seriously), I wonder if there isn't an auxiliary type of corporation in the works that would run this with MLS, LLC, being the majority owner. If USL is looking to sell, maybe I should have friended Francisco Marcos on Facebook. He might have a lot of time to play Mafia Wars now.
     
  16. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Listen, I know what you are saying. I just made a theoretical statement.

    But if we want to pursue it, lets.

    MLS buys USL. Vancouver, Portland and Montreal are all still in place. Granted that if they were still in USL, they might not be sold but this is theoretical after all. Anyhow, at this point MLS would find it in their best interest to move these teams up into MLS. The owners of these teams wouldnt have to pay for the move up, because there is no incentive to do so, or at least NOT in the 35 million dollar range. In effect, the USL owners have slightly more leverage to say no to such a high dollar amount.

    That's all I'm saying.
     
  17. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, because smart business people rush to immediately reduce the value of their investments. :rolleyes:

    Not to mention, the owners of Vancouver, Portland and Montreal all own an equity stake in the league, so they would certainly have a say in all of this from the get-go.

    Seriously, just stop talking.
     
  18. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Obviously not! Are you being intentionally obtuse? It was a theoretical statement.
     
  19. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It was never a factual statement nor meant to be. It was always a theoretical. Apparently you need a little more coffee in the morning.
     
  20. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, the three teams moving up for less than what they paid, which you somehow think "MLS would find in their best interest," is somehow NOT an example of MLS owners decreasing the value of their investment?

    Even you can't possibly be this thick.
     
  21. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Forget it, you aren't worth the time to explain it.
     
  22. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How does that make sense from the position of the current owners to accept them in for a lower fee? Why is there no incentive to move up? Even if MLS bought the USL, the teams in USL would still be minor league teams (even more so if the league was bought by MLS).
     
  23. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I was basing it all on MLS' desire to have those teams in MLS. If the league was being sold and MLS was the buyer, then it would be better for the teams to stay in the USL, as a point of leverage against MLS. That's all.
     
  24. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am amused that there's this much discussion about an article that basically says 'If MLS bought the USL, there could be promotion/relegation! Oh, by the way, someone else is going to buy the USL, not MLS.'

    Good job, though, Mr. Ben Rycroft, for driving traffic to your blog!
     
  25. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You really need to hire a proofreader.
     

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