Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Yallop eh? And he said it was extreme violent conduct eh?
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Yallop? Mods, could you fix the headline?
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Poor Frank Yallop. Apologizing for other teams. EDIT - Damn. Don't you people sleep?
Re: Kinnear Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" all that talk of the Galaxy making the playoffs.....<shudder>....makes one's mind ache. mea culpa. fixed.
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" And Ill clarify this is the FC Dallas's coaches wording, to an FC Dallas reporter, who gets much of his information from FC Dallas sources. To be accurate, the headline should be "Kinnear apollogizes for what Morrow calls "Extreme Violent Conduct"" Kinnear though is a class guy. It doesnt suprise me that he appologized for the incident.
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Okay. And now I've changed it to match your headline (edited out your typos, btw). It wasn't meant to be overtly hyperbolic. So maybe we can now get to the relevant questions. Such as...... The question is whether or not the League will step in and level an "extreme violent conduct"-type of suspension against the player who has (according to Dynamo posts) been the wheel that makes Houston "go." And by the way, they're in an SS battle....and a Conference battle versus Chivas USA. And they're the defending MLS Cup champs. What will the league do about a player "losing his mind" and kicking a guy (Carlos Ruiz...and does that matter?) who is on his face down on the ground with his back turned to the kick? Lots of questions to be asked here. Lots of ways the League could go with this. Do they send a message? Does one need to be sent?
Re: Dominic Kinnear apollogizes for what Morrow calls "Extreme Violent Conduct" Ruiz looks like a pro wrestler that got hit with a chair. Why is he grabbing his head when he got hit in the shoulder? And does he usually carry packets of ketchup with him?
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" My issue was that the quote was presented in a way to make it sound like that was Kinnear's choice of words. I have no idea what Kinnear and the Dynamo think exactly. I know hes not happy, he doesn't tolerate this kind of stuff. But I dont know exactly what the Dynamo think about how bad the incident was in comparison to other incidents. As for the length of the suspension, heres what a 6 game suspension for fighting looks like to MLS
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Kicking a prone player is tons worse than punching someone holding you. I say, a 10 game suspension is warranted. Which may be the end of Rico Clark in MLS.
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Not comprable in the slightest. The boot to Ruiz came as he was face down on the field during play. We can all see the play with our own eyes. What could Clark possibly provide as an excuse that would....well, excuse what Clark did? And, (the more important question, imho is) again....what does Clark deserve as punishment? Will the league go easier on Clark because of his significant role with this significant team at this significant part of the season?
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Sala didn't punch a player... he hit one player from behind, knocked another off his feet, and took a wild swing at a third, and took a couple jabs at a 4th. Thats 3-5 punches thrown, one of which knocked a guy clean off his feet... and it was a good 15 seconds after the end of the game before he hit the first guy.
Kinnear??? I remember him kicking a ball out of frustration at Herculez Gomez during the playoffs in '05. That was class-less. Herc responded w/ "See you in Houston".
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" That was roughly the amount of time it took Sala to discern Colorado players going into the mouth of his supporters' group, flipping them off, etc. It was an emotional moment for all involved, obviously. Heat of the battle for Colorado, and all that. No problem. Sala responded to that provocation, and got what he got. No argument. Can we talk about what happened this past week in MLS?
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Excuse? Hell no, but Sala's rampage establishes the baseline for what a 6 game suspension looks like. It was A, premeditated, B, involving multiple punches, C included 1 attack from behind and on attack on a guy who was trying to calm him down, D, knocked said guy trying to calm him down clean off his feet, and E, was was not in response to violent behavior by the rapids. Btw, Petke only received a fine for his flying knee btw.
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Hey, your asking what Clark's punishment should be. I just showed you what a 6 game suspension looks like. I know you dont want to talk about Sala's bad behavior, but it establishes the precedent for a 6 game suspension. If you say he deserves longer, fine. But that means that you have to either a) say what Clark did was worse (which frankly I dont think it was) or b) argue that Sala's suspension was too light and the precedent should be changed..
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Like I said before, Clark's kicking was a lot worse than Sala's punching. Thus, Clark deserves a longer suspension.
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" That was from the 2005 season, and involved a ref. Sala's was between players, and more recent. Try again.
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" And Ive beaten to death in other threads why I think Clark's kicking isn't that bad, and the Clark's kick doesnt even come close to comparing to the length of Sala's rampage. See the kick clark out of MLS thread in general.
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" Um, no. You showed what one particular 6-game suspension looks like. I showed you another. I believe those are the only two 6-game suspension handed out by MLS. So, obviously, those are the most egregious. The point is, there's no definitive rule is there? Some players get yellow cards for harsh tackles during battle. Some players get yellows for taking their shirt off. Give me a break. It's now up to the League to mead out punishment. Was Ricardo Clark's one of the most egregious fouls committed by an MLS player? Does it merit one of the harshest sancions? Riddle me this: What player fouls have been worse?
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" First, you cant compare an incident involving a ref to one not involving a ref. Players know to never, ever touch a ref. Refs dont kick them, refs dont knee them in the back, they dont throw punches, elbows trip, or have any other real physical contact with players. And if you do so much as touch a ref in any sport, the precedent is set to recieve a long, long suspension. How about Danny Dichio BITING another player? Maybe not worse, but he got 1 game for that.
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" You're reaching. Again, not remotely comprable, as that was a man-to-man, face-to-face, forehead-to-forehead (and, eventually, teeth to ear ) confrontation - both players ratcheting up the "confrontation drama" level. Clark kicked a guy laying prone on the ground with his back to him.
Re: Yallop Apologizes for Player's "Extreme Violent Conduct" There is no excuse to bite. EVER. Seriously, just none. An FYP.