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Aguilas Del America 31 Mar 2007 07:57 PM
Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Official?

http://www.oem.com.mx/esto/notas/n223373.htm

http://www.univision.com/content/con...html?cid=90059

http://www.ovaciones.com/deportivo/notas/futnac7.html

http://www.ovaciones.com/deportivo/f...al/portada.jpg

:(

americaforlife 31 Mar 2007 09:30 PM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
let me the first to say f uck all yous who talk shit about blanco,now hes leave and i hope your happy a ssholes.

Levante 31 Mar 2007 09:40 PM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
I will not believe it until I see it on Club America's website.

discreetname27 01 Apr 2007 03:17 AM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by americaforlife (Post 11113958)
let me the first to say f uck all yous who talk shit about blanco,now hes leave and i hope your happy a ssholes.
To whom are you referring when you say "all yous?"

I think that to most of the league, on the field anyway, he's become irrelevant, so no one's going to be cheering much when he leaves. It'll just be another player past his prime put out to pasture in the US to scare up some money for the MLS.

To be fair though, I think it's kind of sad that he's officially admitting his irrelevance by going to Chicago. If it weren't for that horrible attack on his knee, he could've accomplished a lot more. Not saying he wasn't one of the most creative players Mexico has had in a while, just saying it's sad how an injury capped his potential.

Oh well, los hubieras no existen...

dice50 01 Apr 2007 03:25 AM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
I think it's funny when people who are mad, sad, scared try to say things like a player leaving your team to go to MLS is the equivalent of "giving up" "becoming over the hill" "being put out to pasture" "moving to a league that is easier" when the actual facts don't support any of this. Of course I don't expect people who don't live in this country or who have traditionally supported a foreign league to instantly become hardcore MLS fans, or admit that its level of play is on par with their favorite league but it gets to a point where those statements are rediculous when the facts on the field prove otherwise. How many times will it take MLS teams to beat MFL teams before fans of MFL at least admit that MLS is far better than what it used to be. If DC or Houston wins the Champions Cup does that not mean anything to you even though they are beating MFL teams? There can only be so many excuses. Blanco going to the Fire doesn't mean he's giving up or going out to pasture, it measn he's changing teams, his team may or may not be as talented as Club America but it's in the same ballpark. If Chicago played Club America on a neutral ground 10 times I would put money that Chicago would win at least 4 times. That's not a ringing endorsement of course, but it means they are in the same ballpark.

azulcremaporvida 01 Apr 2007 03:33 AM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dice50 (Post 11115912)
I think it's funny when people who are mad, sad, scared try to say things like a player leaving your team to go to MLS is the equivalent of "giving up" "becoming over the hill" "being put out to pasture" "moving to a league that is easier" when the actual facts don't support any of this. Of course I don't expect people who don't live in this country or who have traditionally supported a foreign league to instantly become hardcore MLS fans, or admit that its level of play is on par with their favorite league but it gets to a point where those statements are rediculous when the facts on the field prove otherwise. How many times will it take MLS teams to beat MFL teams before fans of MFL at least admit that MLS is far better than what it used to be. If DC or Houston wins the Champions Cup does that not mean anything to you even though they are beating MFL teams? There can only be so many excuses. Blanco going to the Fire doesn't mean he's giving up or going out to pasture, it measn he's changing teams, his team may or may not be as talented as Club America but it's in the same ballpark. If Chicago played Club America on a neutral ground 10 times I would put money that Chicago would win at least 4 times. That's not a ringing endorsement of course, but it means they are in the same ballpark.
So you really think Beckham is coming to the MLS to compete?

discreetname27 01 Apr 2007 03:41 AM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dice50 (Post 11115912)
I think it's funny when people who are mad, sad, scared try to say things like a player leaving your team to go to MLS is the equivalent of "giving up" "becoming over the hill" "being put out to pasture" "moving to a league that is easier" when the actual facts don't support any of this. Of course I don't expect people who don't live in this country or who have traditionally supported a foreign league to instantly become hardcore MLS fans, or admit that its level of play is on par with their favorite league but it gets to a point where those statements are rediculous when the facts on the field prove otherwise. How many times will it take MLS teams to beat MFL teams before fans of MFL at least admit that MLS is far better than what it used to be. If DC or Houston wins the Champions Cup does that not mean anything to you even though they are beating MFL teams? There can only be so many excuses. Blanco going to the Fire doesn't mean he's giving up or going out to pasture, it measn he's changing teams, his team may or may not be as talented as Club America but it's in the same ballpark. If Chicago played Club America on a neutral ground 10 times I would put money that Chicago would win at least 4 times. That's not a ringing endorsement of course, but it means they are in the same ballpark.
Sorry if you misunderstood, but I was commenting on Blanco's specific situation and not trying to make a comparison between the FMF and the MLS.

When I said Blanco's move was an acknowledgement that he's over the hill, I said it because he's 34 years old, his level of play has declined and there are emerging players on his current team that would have more than likely pushed him out of his starting spot if he had stayed. In light of this, I think that it's a move to greener pastures with both he and the MLS gaining something from the deal: the MLS gets to tap into the Latino market in Chicago with a proven Mexican idol, and Blanco gets a nice pay check.

Having grown up in California, I'm personally not surprised with the rate of success the MLS has enjoyed because I saw the young talent making their way up the ranks and eventually feeding into a league that has made a strong effort to maintain sustainable growth with homegrown talent.

However, despite this awesome growth, I still don't think they're up to the level of the FMF. Reason: MLS teams have yet to show the ability to consistently beat tough opponents on the road like Mexicans have in the Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana. Soccer is not played in a vacuum and every game is not played on neutral ground, at a neutral elevation, with each side getting massage girls and colorful drinks with parasols on them. To win, you have to be able to go into a hostile ground like "La Bombonera" in Argentina and get a result.

In any case, this is why the new cup being organized between Mexican and American teams is really exciting, because it's going to give clubs on both sides of the border more opportunities to experience tough matches and increase the level of play in both leagues.

sidspaceman 01 Apr 2007 05:10 AM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Blanco was a bad ass that is all I am going to say. The MLS should be happy that they are getting him.

Che chico! 01 Apr 2007 10:02 AM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by discreetname27 (Post 11115950)
Sorry if you misunderstood, but I was commenting on Blanco's specific situation and not trying to make a comparison between the FMF and the MLS.

When I said Blanco's move was an acknowledgement that he's over the hill, I said it because he's 34 years old, his level of play has declined and there are emerging players on his current team that would have more than likely pushed him out of his starting spot if he had stayed. In light of this, I think that it's a move to greener pastures with both he and the MLS gaining something from the deal: the MLS gets to tap into the Latino market in Chicago with a proven Mexican idol, and Blanco gets a nice pay check.

Having grown up in California, I'm personally not surprised with the rate of success the MLS has enjoyed because I saw the young talent making their way up the ranks and eventually feeding into a league that has made a strong effort to maintain sustainable growth with homegrown talent.

However, despite this awesome growth, I still don't think they're up to the level of the FMF. Reason: MLS teams have yet to show the ability to consistently beat tough opponents on the road like Mexicans have in the Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana. Soccer is not played in a vacuum and every game is not played on neutral ground, at a neutral elevation, with each side getting massage girls and colorful drinks with parasols on them. To win, you have to be able to go into a hostile ground like "La Bombonera" in Argentina and get a result.

In any case, this is why the new cup being organized between Mexican and American teams is really exciting, because it's going to give clubs on both sides of the border more opportunities to experience tough matches and increase the level of play in both leagues.
this very true. I will be very proud of MLS if DCU and Dynamo win in Mexico. It doesn't get much more hostile than that!

la fresa 01 Apr 2007 10:14 AM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dice50 (Post 11115912)
I think it's funny when people who are mad, sad, scared try to say things like a player leaving your team to go to MLS is the equivalent of "giving up" "becoming over the hill" "being put out to pasture" "moving to a league that is easier" when the actual facts don't support any of this. Of course I don't expect people who don't live in this country or who have traditionally supported a foreign league to instantly become hardcore MLS fans, or admit that its level of play is on par with their favorite league but it gets to a point where those statements are rediculous when the facts on the field prove otherwise. How many times will it take MLS teams to beat MFL teams before fans of MFL at least admit that MLS is far better than what it used to be. If DC or Houston wins the Champions Cup does that not mean anything to you even though they are beating MFL teams? There can only be so many excuses. Blanco going to the Fire doesn't mean he's giving up or going out to pasture, it measn he's changing teams, his team may or may not be as talented as Club America but it's in the same ballpark. If Chicago played Club America on a neutral ground 10 times I would put money that Chicago would win at least 4 times. That's not a ringing endorsement of course, but it means they are in the same ballpark.
well, they've only eliminated mfl teams once since the champions cup had gone to home-away format, and it was when KC played santos 2nd division affiliate. so when you say "How many times will it take MLS teams to beat MFL teams before fans of MFL at least admit that MLS is far better than what it used to be" i'd say at least four or five times, eliminting mexican teams. or at least winning the tournament.

sad to see blanco go, best of luck to him.

sidspaceman 01 Apr 2007 11:22 AM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dice50 (Post 11115912)
I think it's funny when people who are mad, sad, scared try to say things like a player leaving your team to go to MLS is the equivalent of "giving up" "becoming over the hill" "being put out to pasture" "moving to a league that is easier" when the actual facts don't support any of this. Of course I don't expect people who don't live in this country or who have traditionally supported a foreign league to instantly become hardcore MLS fans, or admit that its level of play is on par with their favorite league but it gets to a point where those statements are rediculous when the facts on the field prove otherwise. How many times will it take MLS teams to beat MFL teams before fans of MFL at least admit that MLS is far better than what it used to be. If DC or Houston wins the Champions Cup does that not mean anything to you even though they are beating MFL teams? There can only be so many excuses. Blanco going to the Fire doesn't mean he's giving up or going out to pasture, it measn he's changing teams, his team may or may not be as talented as Club America but it's in the same ballpark. If Chicago played Club America on a neutral ground 10 times I would put money that Chicago would win at least 4 times. That's not a ringing endorsement of course, but it means they are in the same ballpark.
Well seeing as the only time a MLS side knocked out an MFl team was when KC beat Santos 2nd division team. Because the first team was playing in a friendly and the usual score in Mexico is MFL team 5 MLS team 0 what kind of respect do you want?

Tano09Xsiempre 01 Apr 2007 04:42 PM
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I cant believe this....this is a big dissapointment, you guys might think that well you know he's getting old and that he should just try to bank but i think its more than that...its called loving your team this just has been a low point in the teams history i believe, not trying to compare or anything...FOR ME Cuau is the ultimate player..(think w.e u want i dont wana hear anyones bitching) but for me he is and for him to go and play for a league that will never appreciate the game as much as we all do here at least..i dont want him to become some kind of washed up player that ended up in the MLS i want him to go out BIG but now that this has happened im giving up on any credibility on how much the ppl upstairs truly care about our teams...or do they just wana make business decision, yeah i know its about banking nowadays but hey who ever said that you cant bank with ur team that loves you since he's prolly earning just as much last time he was earning around 900k a season making just under 2mdd..thanks for reading my bitching and my preaching but i just think this has become one of the worst days in Coapa...trust me!....And to respond to Dice50 the only reason we get upset is because we appreciate the teams our players play in and its not about who beats who any team can beat any fcuking** team any day of the week...its about our Culture being disrupted by fcukers** that dont give a shit about the fans and what they want because ultimately we are what drive the team forward!

Don Boppero 3000 01 Apr 2007 05:49 PM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Kill that font and color!

EduarDitto 01 Apr 2007 05:55 PM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Che chico! (Post 11116678)
this very true. I will be very proud of MLS if DCU and Dynamo win in Mexico. It doesn't get much more hostile than that!
Wow seriously d00de, nobody takes that tournament as seriously as MLS fans/teams.

Pirru 01 Apr 2007 06:06 PM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
I heard it was a 2 million dollars per season

doesnt he already earn that kind of money with America?

Tano09Xsiempre 01 Apr 2007 06:22 PM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Yeah he does

Pirru 01 Apr 2007 06:24 PM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
why leave

bad move by temoc

MightyMouse 01 Apr 2007 06:29 PM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by azulcremaporvida (Post 11115929)
So you really think Beckham is coming to the MLS to compete?
No he's coming over to pick his nose and scratch his ass... stupid questions deserve stupid answers.

MightyMouse 01 Apr 2007 06:31 PM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
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Originally Posted by Eduardinho (Post 11119658)
Wow seriously d00de, nobody takes that tournament as seriously as MLS fans/teams.
For a spot in the world club tournament how can you not take this seriously? I call bullshit on your comment...

Pirru 01 Apr 2007 06:37 PM
Re: Cuauhtemoc Blanco al Chicago Fire
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyMouse (Post 11119840)
No he's coming over to pick his nose and scratch his ass... stupid questions deserve stupid answers.
no he's coming to LA to have an acting career


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