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Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 02:30 AM by Dan Loney
Here in Los Angeles, there's a minimum level of fame you must have in order to get away with a serious crime. We call it the Phil Spector Scale. It's sort of like the Mendoza Line, but for murderers.
Well, MLS apparently has a similar line, and at least a couple of Galaxy players are well above it.
We all remember Landon and David going street justice on Daniel Hernandez, but let's have a link anyway. Need to find a respectable site, though....ah, here we go.
David Beckham Gets Angry Before Going Shirtless
Well, if there's anything we know about Major League Soccer, it's the slow, meticulous way they go about - whoops, this just came in over the wire.
...all righty then. Clearly Beckham and Donovan were falsely accused. What I want to know is, where are the apologies? Huh? Bill, you posted that lying picture, how about you correct the record? And what about you, Dallas fans? Hernandez viciously attacked Donovan, then got his neck juice all over Beckham's porcelain hands! Well, if this is what they teach at Southern Methodist, clearly there is no God. (Or at least, He prefers Baylor.)
I'm astounded at the power of the memory hole on this one - Dan Patrick said the Monday after what a bad incident it was, and this was after week freaking one of the freaking NFL. You know, MLS should have suspended the two just for publicity. (It wasn't as if having Donovan and Beckham around helped sell out the Home Depot Center, just saying.)
I'm sure it's been said a million times - strangling Daniel Hernandez is a victimless crime. Except for one thing....
Oh, nice. By refusing to fine Donovan and Beckham, not only were Toronto FC screwed out of three road points, but MLS took money away from poor kids.
Speaking of empty seats - congratulations, Houston, but was it the rain that kept fans away, or the quality of opponent?
This is still an experiment in progress, I suppose - if Houston or DC or Columbus somehow win this tournament, then it will be interesting to see if those teams get the bounce that eluded DC in 1999 and LA in 2000.
Presumably, Cruz Azul, Toluca, Pumas and Pachuca entertain similar dreams. Because I see even less advantage for those teams otherwise. Where MLS fans look at the groups and see two dog teams no one cares about, FMF teams look at the groups and see three. Who's making money off this?
Well, let me rephrase. Are Caribbean teams on Jack Warner's teat making enough money to justify the bloat? Or is it literally just CONCACAF having a Champions League because UEFA has one?
Well, MLS apparently has a similar line, and at least a couple of Galaxy players are well above it.
We all remember Landon and David going street justice on Daniel Hernandez, but let's have a link anyway. Need to find a respectable site, though....ah, here we go.
David Beckham Gets Angry Before Going Shirtless
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Originally Posted by Popsugar.co.uk
After Landon Donovan got involved in a fracas, Becks grabbed FC Dallas's Daniel Hernandez round the neck, and could now face an MLS disciplinary probe.
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MLS Disciplinary Committee Announces Suspensions and Fines
NEW YORK (Tuesday, Sept. 22, 2009) – The Major League Soccer Disciplinary Committee today announced suspensions and fines for Chivas USA midfielder Marcelo Saragosa and Houston Dynamo assistant coach John Spencer, and a fine for San Jose Earthquakes head coach Frank Yallop.
Saragosa was issued a red card for a dangerous play on Seattle’s Fredy Montero in the 72nd minute of Chivas USA’s match versus the Sounders FC on Saturday, Sept. 19. The Committee reviewed the play (linked here) and ruled that Saragosa’s actions warranted an additional fine and suspension of $500 and one game. This is in addition to an automatic $500 fine and one-game suspension, bringing the total to $1,000 and two games. Saragosa will serve the suspension when Chivas USA faces the New York Red Bulls on Sept. 26 and versus D.C. United on Oct. 3.
Spencer, the Dynamo’s assistant coach, was dismissed from Houston’s match versus Real Salt Lake on Sept. 19. He received an automatic one-game suspension and $500 fine. The Committee reviewed the confrontation for which Spencer was dismissed and fined him an additional $1,000 and suspended him one game bringing the total to $1,500 and two games. Spencer will serve the suspension for Houston’s Oct. 4 match versus Kansas City and Oct. 18 match versus the Los Angeles Galaxy.
San Jose Earthquakes head coach Yallop was fined $750 for confronting the officiating crew following the Earthquakes match versus the Colorado Rapids on Friday, Sept. 18.
NEW YORK (Tuesday, Sept. 22, 2009) – The Major League Soccer Disciplinary Committee today announced suspensions and fines for Chivas USA midfielder Marcelo Saragosa and Houston Dynamo assistant coach John Spencer, and a fine for San Jose Earthquakes head coach Frank Yallop.
Saragosa was issued a red card for a dangerous play on Seattle’s Fredy Montero in the 72nd minute of Chivas USA’s match versus the Sounders FC on Saturday, Sept. 19. The Committee reviewed the play (linked here) and ruled that Saragosa’s actions warranted an additional fine and suspension of $500 and one game. This is in addition to an automatic $500 fine and one-game suspension, bringing the total to $1,000 and two games. Saragosa will serve the suspension when Chivas USA faces the New York Red Bulls on Sept. 26 and versus D.C. United on Oct. 3.
Spencer, the Dynamo’s assistant coach, was dismissed from Houston’s match versus Real Salt Lake on Sept. 19. He received an automatic one-game suspension and $500 fine. The Committee reviewed the confrontation for which Spencer was dismissed and fined him an additional $1,000 and suspended him one game bringing the total to $1,500 and two games. Spencer will serve the suspension for Houston’s Oct. 4 match versus Kansas City and Oct. 18 match versus the Los Angeles Galaxy.
San Jose Earthquakes head coach Yallop was fined $750 for confronting the officiating crew following the Earthquakes match versus the Colorado Rapids on Friday, Sept. 18.
I'm astounded at the power of the memory hole on this one - Dan Patrick said the Monday after what a bad incident it was, and this was after week freaking one of the freaking NFL. You know, MLS should have suspended the two just for publicity. (It wasn't as if having Donovan and Beckham around helped sell out the Home Depot Center, just saying.)
I'm sure it's been said a million times - strangling Daniel Hernandez is a victimless crime. Except for one thing....
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As one of the League’s official Charities of Choice, the US Soccer Foundation is the recipient of all player fines at the end of each season. Those fines are added to the Foundation’s Annual Grants Pool from which the Board of Directors awards grants to soccer clubs and organizations that serve economically disadvantaged children in urban areas. To learn more about the Foundation, please visit www.ussoccerfoundation.org.
Speaking of empty seats - congratulations, Houston, but was it the rain that kept fans away, or the quality of opponent?
This is still an experiment in progress, I suppose - if Houston or DC or Columbus somehow win this tournament, then it will be interesting to see if those teams get the bounce that eluded DC in 1999 and LA in 2000.
Presumably, Cruz Azul, Toluca, Pumas and Pachuca entertain similar dreams. Because I see even less advantage for those teams otherwise. Where MLS fans look at the groups and see two dog teams no one cares about, FMF teams look at the groups and see three. Who's making money off this?
Well, let me rephrase. Are Caribbean teams on Jack Warner's teat making enough money to justify the bloat? Or is it literally just CONCACAF having a Champions League because UEFA has one?
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...yeah, that oneQuote:Or is it literally just CONCACAF having a Champions League because UEFA has one?Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 08:11 AM by Perugina 
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Jack Warner's ego needs to be assuaged. Oh, and he didn't like the Superliga stealing his thunder. No teams actually make money playing games in this thing. The only money is the $1M from going to the Club World Cup. . . .but that would have been available under the old CONCACAF Cup system anyway. The CCL is a joke and people who support it have a thing for authority.
Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 08:41 AM by rtung
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"Where MLS fans look at the groups and see two dog teams no one cares about, FMF teams look at the groups and see three. Who's making money off this?...Or is it literally just CONCACAF having a Champions League because UEFA has one?"
First off, FMF teams probably don't even "see" the teams at all. They just look at this tournament, turn around and look at envy at the other side of the fence where River, Boca, Colo Colo and Brazilian teams frolick and play, sigh and just repeat in their heads: "there's the Club World Cup at the end of this...there's the Club World Cup at the end of this..."
And for everyone else, it has a couple of advantages from a sporting perspective (being more inclusive, having home-and-away games, and teaching us such things as that no MLS team should talk trash on those in FMF until they can actually win in Mexico...oh, and that the Red Bulls would be hard-pressed to compete in the T&T Pro League).
But just wondering, Dan: did you actually prefer the previous format to this one?Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 08:44 AM by usafan12
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Uncle Jack aside (...unfortunately, any conversation about what to do with CONCACAF begins with "Whereas Mr. Austin Jack Warner will preside over this confederation until God calls him to judgement..."), I'd argue that people who support the CCL do so because they like having an honest tournament. True, it doesn't make money, but the biennial Gold Cup should provide more than enough money to cover it until it gets more popular (rose-colored argument, I know). And really, what other format (other than what Africa uses, I guess) is going to cover the oddity of the region, that has a bunch of below-mediocre leagues punctuated by superclubs (e.g. Costa Rica, Honduras, the Caribbean as a whole), an ok one who couldn't be bothered with international tournaments outside of showing up Mexico (USA), one that doesn't have a "top" league at all (Canada), and a league that in every way towers over the rest (Mexico)?Quote:Originally Posted by rtung
Jack Warner's ego needs to be assuaged. Oh, and he didn't like the Superliga stealing his thunder. No teams actually make money playing games in this thing. The only money is the $1M from going to the Club World Cup. . . .but that would have been available under the old CONCACAF Cup system anyway. The CCL is a joke and people who support it have a thing for authority.
And for Superliga, make it a home-and-away tournament and I doubt you'd see it do much better than the CCL is now.Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 09:00 AM by usafan12
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9 pm start on a weeknight.Quote:Speaking of empty seats - congratulations, Houston, but was it the rain that kept fans away, or the quality of opponent?
Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 10:11 AM by skajules
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To me it didn't even seem like Daniel Hernandez felt Beckham grabbing him by the neck. It didn't seem like Beckham was trying to harm him and this has been overblown just like every other story including the LA Galaxy, Landon, or Becks. Its just sad this story is sitting on the Bigsoccer front page.Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 12:05 PM by lagalaxy900
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I don't like it that they announce the amount of the fines. With $500 or $1000, it makes the league look small or inferior in a way. I understand the financial differences between MLS and other american sports leagues but couldn't they have fined them without releasing the amount they were fined? I mean like someone in the NBA who violates the dress code is fined something like $10,000.(might be off on that, but you get my point)
Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 02:48 PM by soccerusa517
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Well, I do find it interesting that the league releases the amount of fines but when it comes to signings, in every MLS press release we are told that "per league policy, terms of the salary were not disclosed," or something like that.Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 03:12 PM by sprovi
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Or is it literally just CONCACAF having a Champions League because UEFA has one?
...yeah, that one
Posted Today at 05:11 AM by Perugina
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...and because AFC has one too.Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 03:32 PM by Carson Galaxy
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...and CAF.Quote:Originally Posted by Carson Galaxy
Or is it literally just CONCACAF having a Champions League because UEFA has one?
...yeah, that one
Posted Today at 05:11 AM by Perugina
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...and because AFC has one too.Posted 23 Sep 2009 at 06:49 PM by usafan12
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