Pre NCAA div I - who's in, who's out, and who folded.

[soccernutter]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/feature/story?page=champweek04

Most of the confrence tournies started today, or will be played next week.

Nobody officially in, yet. With a win tomorrow, and a Brown loss, Princeton could be the first team to officially make the tourny.

This thread will be closed next Sunday when the selections are made.

[soccernutter]

Princeton is in.

[WarrenWallace]

IN
East Tennessee State - Southern Conference
Central Florida - Atlantic Sun Conference
Liberty - Big South Conference
Murray State - Ohio Valley Conference

[Chizzy]

They have to consider Washington for the NCAA Tournament. The Huskies have beaten Arizona twice, had a good game against NC State in Raleigh, and they've just defeated the previously unbeaten Stanford.


I know, the RPI isn't favoring Washington, but they deserve a consideration. They have won 12 out of 13 Pac-10 games and 12 of 14 overall.

[Ludahai]

Does anyone think Georgia has a shot to get into the field? They have some good wins, but also some bad losses. NIT might be better anyway for the understrength Dawgs this year. Still, always have to support my Dawgs!

[ThreeApples]

Originally posted by Ludahai
Does anyone think Georgia has a shot to get into the field? They have some good wins, but also some bad losses. NIT might be better anyway for the understrength Dawgs this year. Still, always have to support my Dawgs!

If any of the Georgia players go on to become huge coaching successes, to whom will they give the credit?

[Thomas A Fina]

NCAA Tourney Bubble In/Out

as of 2.45pm eastern

IN - officially

America East - Vermont
A-10 - Xavier
ACC - Game in progress Maryland v Duke
Atantic Sun - University of Central Florida
Big 12 - Tip off 3.00pm eastern - Ok St v Texas
Big East - UConn
Big Sky - Eastern Washington
Big Ten - tip off 3.30pm eastern - Illinois v Wisconsin
Big South - Liberty
Big West - Pacific
Colonial - Virginia Commonwealth
Conference USA - Cincinatti
Horizon - Univ Ill. Chicago
Ivy - Princeton (First team to win the automatic bid)
MAAC - Manhattan
MAC - Western Michigan (edit - and/or Kent St Conf final)
MidContinent - Valpo
MEAC - Florida A&M
Missouri Valley - Northern Iowa
Mountain West - Utah
Northeast - Monmouth
Ohio Valley - Murray State
Pac-10 - Stanford
Patriot - Lehigh
SEC - Game in progress - Kentucky v Florida
Southern - East Tennessee State
Southland - Texas-San Antonio
SWAC - Alabama St
Sun Belt - Louisiana-Lafayette
West Coast - Gonzaga
WAC - Nevada

IN - likely

A-10 - St. Joseph's and Dayton
ACC - Duke, NC, NC STate, Maryland, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech
Big 12 - Oklahoma state, Texas, Kansas, Texas Tech
Big East - Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Providence, Boston College,
Big Ten - Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan St
Conference USA - Depaul, Memphis, Louisville, Charlotte
MAC - Kent St
Mountain West - Air Force
Pac-10 - Arizona, Washington
SEC - Kentucky, Florida, Vandy, Mississippi State, South Carolina (Miss St only team not in conf semis)

The Bubble Teams

Nevada - beat SMU/Tulsa (edit - beat SMU, then Rice, and now in conf finals)
UTEP - Beat La. Tech (edit - beat La Tech and Boise St to make WAC finals)
BYU - beat Wyoming (edit - beat Wyoming, but lost in conf. semis to Utah)
Michigan State - Beat Penn State/Northwestern (edit - successful; lost to Wisconsin Saturday - moved to "likely")
Richmond - must beat Temple (edit - beat Temple and just lost to Dayton)
Alabama - Beat Tennessee (edit - beat Tenn by 35pts; lost to Florida in OT)
LSU - Beat South Carolina (may be in anyway) (edit - lost to South Carolina by 19)
Washington - beat UCLA (edit - beat UCLA and Arizona and lost to Stanford in the tourny finals)
UAB - Beat Charlotte/Tulane (edit - beat Charlotte and lost to DePaul in OT in the semis)
Colorado - Must beat Texas Tech (edit - didn't happen)
Oklahoma - Beat Nebraska, Maybe Texas (edit - beat Nebraska, lost to Texas by 3)
Notre Dame - Beat West Virginia, Maybe UConn (edit - beat West Va, lost to UConn - dead as a door nail).
Florida State - Beat NC State (edit - lost to NC St - probably wouldn't get the bid anyway giving ACC 7 teams)
Purdue - Beat Wisconsin (edit - never got the chance - lost preceding game to Minn.)
Iowa/Michigan - Loser done, winner must beat Illinois (edit - Michigan won and lost to Ill on Sat)
Xavier - Needs to beat the Hawk (edit - to say successful would be an understatement)
Marquette - Must make Finals (edit - lost in first round to TCU)
Virginia - Must beat Duke (edit - a Virginia victory would have been nearly as big as Xavier's - even less of a chance than FSU to Dance)
Missouri - Must beat Kansas (edit - lost by 15)
Southern Illinois (edit - loss in confrence finals made them a bubble team by default)
Utah St - (edit - lost in confrence semis)
Seton Hall (edit - SH should go, but thier loss to 'nova in the first round of the Big East makes them a bubble team)

[kwik1980]

IN on Monday:

Gonzaga (West Coast)- Probably locking up a #1 seed as well.
Virginia Commonwealth (CAA)
Manhattan (MAAC)
Northern Iowa (MVC)

Today's Finals:
Horizon: Chicago-Illinois at Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Mid-Continent: Valparaiso-IUPUI
Sun Belt: Louisiana-Lafayette vs. New Orleans

[soccernutter]

Originally posted by kwik1980
Virginia Commonwealth (CAA)


Good for Capel. Even though I'm not a fan of much anything Duke or Duke related, Capel is a good guy and I'm glad he is doing well.

I also doubt that Maryland will make the tourny unless they win the ACC tourny.

[TheWakeUpBomb]

Originally posted by Ludahai
Does anyone think Georgia has a shot to get into the field? They have some good wins, but also some bad losses. NIT might be better anyway for the understrength Dawgs this year. Still, always have to support my Dawgs! Georgia won't get in unless they win the SEC tournament. Too many losses, and too many other worthy teams from the SEC. Granted, if they do manage to beat Kentucky again, they might find themselves back on the bubble.

I'd say the SEC gets 7 in. Alabama is a lock, by the way. They have played the toughest schedule in the country according to the numbers.

[gsterp]

Originally posted by soccernutter
I also doubt that Maryland will make the tourny unless they win the ACC tourny.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Explain how short of the team being involved in a horrible accident Maryland gets left out of the tournament.

[soccernutter]

Originally posted by gsterp
You have no idea what you are talking about. Explain how short of the team being involved in a horrible accident Maryland gets left out of the tournament.

Since January, The only quality win the Terps have has is that against NC St. In that span, they have lost to Ga Tech twice, NC St, Duke (though it was at Dixon Indoor Arena), and UNC. UMd finished 6th in the ACC, only one game ahead of FSU and VA. Maybe I'm just setting my sights low, but I don't think the Terps will make the Tourny.

[Thomas A Fina]

Marquette's on the ropes down ten to TCU.

(and nutter - I'd be pretty surprised if Maryland didn't make it.)

edit - Marquette on an 8-0 run is down 2.

[soccernutter]

Originally posted by Thomas A Fina

(and nutter - I'd be pretty surprised if Maryland didn't make it.)


Yeah, maybe I just have my standards set too high.

[Thomas A Fina]

Marquette's cooked. 64-62 to TCU.

[kwik1980]

Tonight's Championship Games:

NEC- Central Connectciut St.-Monmouth (Monmouth up 19-12 early)
Big Sky- Northern Arizona vs. Eastern Washington

This is it for Conference title games until Saturday.

[odg78]

Originally posted by kwik1980
Tonight's Championship Games:

NEC- Central Connectciut St.-Monmouth (Monmouth up 19-12 early)
Big Sky- Northern Arizona vs. Eastern Washington

This is it for Conference title games until Saturday.

--Monmouth wins this one 67-55 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/basketball/ncaa/03/10/bc.bkc.nec.cconnst.monm.ap/index.html).
--And Eastern Washington gets their first NCAA tourney berth (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/basketball/ncaa/03/10/bc.bkc.bsc.n.arizona.e.ap/index.html).

[DoyleG]

How envious are people that Spokane can claim two univeristies in the tourney?

[NNCRed]

Originally posted by kwik1980
This is it for Conference title games until Saturday.

Actually, the Southland Championship game is on Friday at 4:30pm EST on ESPN2. Stephen F. Austin is at Texas - San Antonio.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/champweek2004/news/story?page=southland

[kwik1980]

Well, St. Joe's is going to flame out of the A-10 tourney in spectacular style, right now losing 53-23 to Xavier in the 2nd half. So, the "unbeaten season" pressure is off.