Einmal Löwe--Immer Löwe (TSV 1860 München Official Thread 08/09 IV [R]

[panicfc]

Isn't she the one we had the Ann Coulter discussion about?? :D ;)

yep.

[LoewenBoy]

One of my old buddies added her on Facebook and was hitting on her hard before she told him who she is..
There are not enough bullets in an M16 magazine to cover my response to this situation.:mad:

[City Dave]

There are not enough bullets in an M16 magazine to cover my response to this situation.:mad:

There shouldn't be any bullets in an M16 magazine, cartridges/rounds maybe, bullets no. :p

Sorry, kneejerk response, even after five years some stuff is still ingrained in me.

The M16A2 service rifle is a light weight, 5.56mm, magazine fed, air cooled, gas operated, shoulder fired weapon. Heh, I almost got that from memory, of course, they're on to A4s now. I can't even remember their serial numbers any more. :(

Hey, footy, do you still carry them around by the carrying handle? We were taught to call that bit of the weapon the "Army handle" and were forbidden to use it.

Oh, and to stay on topic:

YouTube - TSV 1860 München - Red Bastards

YouTube - einmal Löwe immer Löwe

CHINA!

[LoewenBoy]

Grrrrr....3-2 loss to Koblenz.

In the loss:

Hofmann was injured and Tschauner had to play.
Gulan started but sucked the entire 90 mins. Why Schick was benched was beyond me.
Wolf stated Schawarz UP FRONT instead of a normal striker!?!?!?! Realizing his mistake he subbed in Schaefler too late.
Bender was terrible. Taylor scored twice and was his man.
Beda had a decent game.
Roesler came in but should have stayed off.
Lauth was good, as was Holebas.
Rukavina was ok.
Torben and Thorandt played strong.
Johnson, so-so.

Rumors:

Beda to Hanover
Danny Schwarz to 'haching
Torben to somewhere
Thorandt to Pauli
Perhaps picking up a player (or coach) from Koblenz

Ex-Loewen:

Gregg's debut at LA and he was sent off. Bad pass at midfield and he tackled the striker who stole him. Straight red. To be honest, was his fault but he was thinking he was playing with 1860 where they play like that in defense.

Ugly game today. 1860 deserved to lose though they were only marginally worse than Koblenz.

[goindownsouth]

Grrrrr....3-2 loss to Koblenz.

In the loss:

Hofmann was injured and Tschauner had to play.
Gulan started but sucked the entire 90 mins. Why Schick was benched was beyond me.
Wolf stated Schawarz UP FRONT instead of a normal striker!?!?!?! Realizing his mistake he subbed in Schaefler too late.
Bender was terrible. Taylor scored twice and was his man.
Beda had a decent game.
Roesler came in but should have stayed off.
Lauth was good, as was Holebas.
Rukavina was ok.
Torben and Thorandt played strong.
Johnson, so-so.

Rumors:

Beda to Hanover
Danny Schwarz to 'haching
Torben to somewhere
Thorandt to Pauli
Perhaps picking up a player (or coach) from Koblenz

Ex-Loewen:

Gregg's debut at LA and he was sent off. Bad pass at midfield and he tackled the striker who stole him. Straight red. To be honest, was his fault but he was thinking he was playing with 1860 where they play like that in defense.

Ugly game today. 1860 deserved to lose though they were only marginally worse than Koblenz.

*sigh*

Losing more. I would hate to see Thorandt and Beda, Torben as well. My thought is that there will be more youth brought up from the U23s, but I will let Garry speak to that.

[Hobo]

Ex-Loewen:

Gregg's debut at LA and he was sent off. Bad pass at midfield and he tackled the striker who stole him. Straight red. To be honest, was his fault but he was thinking he was playing with 1860 where they play like that in defense.



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Yeah, I saw that. Tough reverse culture shock. I felt bad for him, but they still managed the point.

[Floormaster Squeeze]

Grrrrr....3-2 loss to Koblenz.

In the loss:
Rumors:
Ex-Loewen:

Gregg


I think I would rather talk about bier at this point but since I am getting discouraged by 1860's defensive woes--I was wondering what others think about Timo G getting a lot of time at Stuttgart. I have seen him play twice now and definitely see some talent but I am a little surprised he plays so much (he still makes some pretty non-1BL mistakes). He has a lot of energy and seems to position himself pretty well (I have seen some pretty smart runs off the ball).

[LoewenBoy]

Losing more. I would hate to see Thorandt and Beda, Torben as well. My thought is that there will be more youth brought up from the U23s...
Honestly, losing Beda I do not see as an issue. They just signed him and if they are willing to let him look then that means they do not consider him a big loss. Thorandt has really turned a corner. He used to be a big patzer-king and leave his position open but does not do that much anymore. Torben won't go unless 1860 let him. He is getting old and does not have that much more left in him. It's not like GF or Mainz are calling him.

Yeah, I saw that. Tough reverse culture shock. I felt bad for him, but they still managed the point.
Looked like the old Gregg. I think he was just used to a different style with fast wing backs to cover that was a brain fat he won't repeat. Odd, but if you look at his play from Cottbus to 1860 to LA there is a pattern of pazter-ridden games until he settles in. Hope that does not happen in MLS.

I think I would rather talk about bier at this point but since I am getting discouraged by 1860's defensive woes--
Any time. Hell, id we had a forum we could start a whole set of threads on NSR bier talk.;)


I was wondering what others think about Timo G getting a lot of time at Stuttgart. I have seen him play twice now and definitely see some talent but I am a little surprised he plays so much (he still makes some pretty non-1BL mistakes). He has a lot of energy and seems to position himself pretty well (I have seen some pretty smart runs off the ball).
I think it is a smart choice of Babbel to play Timo. He runs like a Labrador puppy and creates havoc like that. Sure, he makes errors but that's how kids like grow. His vision and creativity are nice to see. I don't think he is going to turn out to be a Klose or Scholl, but he certainly can be the next-tier Scholl-style player....provided he stays healthy and focuses.

[LoewenBoy]

Nice article (http://www.tsv1860.de/de/aktuell/news/2008/news_2009-04-12_stimmen_koblenz-1860.php) from Wolf on the future of the roster,...will translate key points later. The title says. "I know know who I can build my future roster with".:cool: The problems are the usual ones: 1) no money and 2) far too many players out of contract on June 30th. So, assuming we can find money and keep the players Wolf wants (assuming Wolf sticks around too) we might be able to build a Kader for the fall that can compete. Won't be a dull summer that's for certain.

The REALLY bad news is that Michi Hoffman is out. He injured his knee during the game. In fact, there were several players who went down or out with injuries yesterday on both sides. It looked like the pitch was really soft and uneven, almost like it was new sod or something. The reason Hoffman going out is bad is not just because Tschauner is now #1, but because the #3 keeper (Krauss) is also injured. This means that the back-up keeper for the pros is Roessl...who is the U23 back-up keeper.:eek: This kid has seen ZERO playing time at the U23 level and now he is needed to back-up the 2.BL side?!?!?!?

My guess is that Michi will play injured rather than let that happen. He's a fighter and, knowing his career has one or two years left, likely would play injured (as a back-up to a healthy Tschauner) rather than leave the team in the hands of a soon-to-be let go U23 keeper with 0 games.

[woodythenetminder]

Nice article (http://www.tsv1860.de/de/aktuell/news/2008/news_2009-04-12_stimmen_koblenz-1860.php) from Wolf on the future of the roster,...will translate key points later. The title says. "I know know who I can build my future roster with". The problems are the usual ones: 1) no money and 2) far too many players out of contract on June 30th. So, assuming we can find money and keep the players Wolf wants (assuming Wolf sticks around too) we might be able to build a Kader for the fall that can compete. Won't be a dull summer that's for certain.

The REALLY bad news is that Michi Hoffman is out. He injured his knee during the game. In fact, there were several players who went down or out with injuries yesterday on both sides. It looked like the pitch was really soft and uneven, almost like it was new sod or something. The reason Hoffman going out is bad is not just because Tschauner is now #1, but because the #3 keeper (Krauss) is also injured. This means that the back-up keeper for the pros is Roessl...who is the U23 back-up keeper. This kid has seen ZERO playing time at the U23 level and now he is needed to back-up the 2.BL side?!?!?!?

My guess is that Michi will play injured rather than let that happen. He's a fighter and, knowing his career has one or two years left, likely would play injured (as a back-up to a healthy Tschauner) rather than leave the team in the hands of a soon-to-be let go U23 keeper with 0 games.

Loewenboy-

How much debt is the club riding right now? Is there a real possibility that the Old Grünwald Stadion will be their home based on the expense of the AllianzArena? Are we looking at a potential relegation battle next season?:confused:

Sounds like the TuS Koblenz match was good and could have gone either way. Based on the injuries you noted, it is no wonder it went wrong. Situation is not good and your comments concerning contracts and players / trainers staying gives me pause.

Based on what I read of the Kicker report, both Americans Matt Taylor and David Yeldell played outstanding matches for TuS Koblenz. Wheather Taylor stays next season is another matter due to his inconsistant play and training. Yeldell may be on the shopping list for BL 1 clubs over the Summer.

Berhalter's foul was embarrasing! Completely turned sixes and sevens. Amazing the Galaxy got a tie.

Saw a bit of dodgy defending this weekend myself. Played Thursday night testspiel for a O-30 side against an Open side and saw most traffic coming my way to the tune of a 0-2 loss and 13 saves. Saturday played in NOVA CL, got my better defending back-line back and a 3-0 shut-out result. I was busy, but at least I was given a good view on the nine saves made with the defenders narrowing the angles to allow me to slide into the shots.

Sunday night was asked to come in as "guest" keeper for EXILES against XCavs (defending League, State and SE Regional O-40 side). EXILES is possibly the worst defending team in NVSL O-40s. I knew what I was getting in to and did this as a favor to a couple of friends.To say I am sore this morning would be a understatement. I haven't seen that many break-aways coming at me EVER! 1-5 loss and 17 saves in a OUTDOOR match.

Thank God there was plenty of beer afterwards since I needed sedatives and some pain relief.:eek:

Now I just need some Jager since I can't move my legs for crap this morning!:mad:

Cheers . . . Woody

[goindownsouth]

Nice article (http://www.tsv1860.de/de/aktuell/news/2008/news_2009-04-12_stimmen_koblenz-1860.php) from Wolf on the future of the roster,...will translate key points later.

I am anxiously awaiting to hear this translation. Regardless of the "push for promotion" in 2010 by the powers that be, I am curious to see how this club takes shape and, perhaps more importantly, if Wolf is the man who will lead them there. I think there are arguments both for and against retaining him.

[LoewenBoy]

How much debt is the club riding right now?
Depends on when you look. Each year under Reuter we were able to clear our debt. the problem was (and still is) that we have a 3m (not sure if it is dollar or Euro) operating deficit each year; so we bleed 3m each year more than we take in. Culprit is the AA. We pay the EXACT SAME for services there that Bayern does even though we only draw 25,000 fans and Bayern draws 60,000. So the AA authority still gets paid as if we had the stadium full. Nice "rente" for someone, huh?

Is there a real possibility that the Old Grünwald Stadion will be their home based on the expense of the AllianzArena?
No. Only those who are grossly delluded and think 1) that 1860 could afford to move back and/or 2) that the city would put up the oney for a refurbishment of the GW, still beleive that the GW is an option. It's just not. The Oly would be the next in line since it is already there and is a BL quality stadium, though has many, many drawbacks. We could "afford" the Oly but you would see our attendance drop by a large amount. Hence why Reuter's plan was to re-negotiate the contracts with the AA rather than give up the extra income we get from using the AA by going to the Oly.


Are we looking at a potential relegation battle next season?:confused:

Much depends on:

Who we can keep who are out-of-contract.
Who we are forced to sell to reduce debt.
If Wolf stays or we get a better coach (Rahpolder, among many, has been rumored but is under contract until 2011 at TuS). Problem is we are still paying Kurz and Reuter's salaries too. Last thing we can afford is more debt.
Who our hauptsponsor is (we are losing Trenkwalder this summer).
If any "investors" come out of the woodwork.
Reduce the operational expenses of using the AA.
I tell you, Stevic will impress the Hell out of me if he can fix all of this. Reuter was on track but they fired him. I highly doubt the current brain-trust which is our board can rise to the challenge. They are too busy patting themslves on the back and playing Napoleon.

Sounds like the TuS Koblenz match was good and could have gone either way. Based on the injuries you noted, it is no wonder it went wrong.
Bender mis-marked Taylor and he scored twice. Gulan gave the first goal scorer WAY too much room to run at him and Hoffman was blindsided on a goal he would normally have.

Yeldell may be on the shopping list for BL 1 clubs over the Summer.

I have heard, though not substantiated, that 1860 inquired about Yeldell over the winter as a back-up and potential starter. Problem is he has a contract through 2011 and we have no $$$. Taylor is out of contract this season. His performance has been spotty...which means Stevic is likely to offer him a contract and a staring job at 1860.



Sunday night was asked to come in as "guest" keeper for EXILES against XCavs (defending League, State and SE Regional O-40 side).
I used to play for XCavs off and on. Then played for Fairfax and our old boys team before we went bellie up after 12 years in the league.:mad:

[LoewenBoy]

I am anxiously awaiting to hear this translation.

Löwen coach Uwe Wolf was very disappointed in his team after the defeat in Koblenz. "We made our work for ourselves," said the 41-year-old, who had to substitute early. "The substitution of Danny Schwarz was tactically necessary. I wanted to bring on a second striker. Manuel Schäffler has ability to turn up the attack."

His team did not give up after being down 0-2. "After 1:2 we are well on a come back, but missed the great opportunity by Schäffler to go 2:2. Because of the 2nd half I would have said a point was deserved." Regarding the two goals against coming from "standards", one from a free kick and another from a corner, said Wolf, "I will not comment on this in public. We will analyze this internally. But everyone has to ask themselves if blame lies with them."

For Wolf, the defeat has been very instructive. "I know now on which players I can build on for the future...who for 1860, is willing to go through fire. In this respect I gained much insight."

Two other positive things came from the loss in Koblenz.One of them is the success of Benny Lauth who, under Wolf as chief trainer for 6 games has tallied 5 goals ("Benny is on a great course."). The second being this is the first time he has seen an away game from the bench for a full 90 mins as head coach. The referee even said after the match "he was exemplary".

Not quite exemplary was his counterpart Uwe Rapolder. The coach, who celebrated is 200 game as a 2.BL coach, spoke of the deserved lead his team enjoyed at the break. "But never hide away. In addition, one or two of my players had weak knees in the 2nd half. That is just naked fear", summed up the 50 year old coach. "In the end we were glad that we won the game. But we know that we were pushed up until the last minute of the match to preserve the win."

Captain Benjamin Lauth, once again criticized the lack of concentration at the start of the game. "It cannot continue to be that we are down a goal or two only after a few minutes and have to chase down a victory. I have had to say that 5 or 6 times this season. It is always the same: 1:0 for our opponent and then begins the chase. Than it is of course difficult. But after being down 0-2 we finally sought to turn the game. We had also out our chances which we did not capitalize on, like me just before the half or Manuel after the 1-2 score. Those were the two key turning points of the game", so the summery was of the 27 year old.

Central defender Torben Hoffmann was particularly annoyed about the two opposing goals from standard situations. "From this game there is little to be proud of," said the 34-year-old. "With standards each has their clear assignment. We have much more concentrated and consistent work to do." We made it too easy for these opponents to defend their lead. We played too many long balls and too little on the wings," criticizes the Kiel-born player. "The will was there, but ultimately lacked the assertiveness."

[LoewenBoy]

Just when you thought stupidity could not christen a new poster child, in walks Herr Stevic. In an interview given today to the TZ, Stevic blasted his side in their loss away to "lowly" Koblenz yesterday. Now let's remind the audience at home of a a few fun facts before we begin:

Stevic is a back-stabbing sycophant who cannot even say "gesundheit" without spouting some form of verbal diarrhea.
Koblenz is not just any crap 2.BL team. They have only lost 3 of their last 10 games, two of them away to then-hot FCK and to still-hot FCN.
1860 has been plagued by injuries, transfers and cocaine scandals that we are now on our THIRD set of "starters" for the season; three of whom are on loan, several who were U23 regulars at the beginning of the season, and a few more who were old-timers on their way out to pasture only to be resurrected as starters recently. Btw, two of the players on loan game complements of Herr Stevic, but more on that later.
1860 was 2-2-1 under new coach Wolf prior to this game.
The Loewen have ZERO $$$.
1860 has done just fine with their current line-up but for some odd reason tinkered with that line-up for the Koblenz game (insert conspiracy theory here).
Now, Herr Stevic has been rather quiet since Wolf took over either because 1) he is tired of looking like a moron every time he opens his trap, or 2) Uwe Wolf promised to kick his ass on the playground if he tampered with "his" team again. My vote's for #2. Anyway, back to the TZ article. Stevic made a few comments which I am sure Uwe Rapholder would like to respond to behind the wood shed.

Of TuS Koblenz: „It is mandatory to win against such a team of limitedly talented players with few great starters."
Of 1860 Players: „Not all here by 1860 understand that a game lasts 90 minutes. The first half on Sunday was desolate, then there was not enough time to correct it. Only two players had a normal performance. That won't work."
Regarding the first comment, I hope that Rapolder challenges Stevic to a cage match like Andy Kaufman did to Jerry Lawler; Stevic being Kaufman, of course. My money is on Rapolder in the First Round.

Second, while Stevic was not off base on the performance comment, the circus clown that he is does not realize HE is partially to blame for the performance. As evidence I give you the aforementioned conspiracy theory:

Stevic brought us Gulan, who has never started...nor should he as long as Schick is playing so well at left back. Yet suddenly a healthy and decent-performing Schick is benched in favor of Gulan...who has not seen a minute of play in an 1860 kit prior to the TuS match. Coincidence?
The aforementioned Gulan was like a deer in the headlights for much of the first half. His inability to close down the flank and allow and rather average cutting run into the middle lead to the first goal. Football 101 for outside backs: give the attacker the lane to the touchline and NOTHING else. Gulan merely sent the attacker a gift basket and invited him to shoot....score. 1-0. Danke Herr Stevic for this wonderful prospect.
Despite Gulan's performance, which only got marginally better the rest of the game in that TuS was too stupid to keep running at him all game, he was kept in THE WHOLE GAME. When Beda outshines you, you know you have had a bad game. Gulan should have been pulled....but why not? Hmmmmm.....
And the battle between Wolf and Stevic continues. Stevic was quoted as saying: "You should only speak when you have done your homework. In life you have to jump and then learn to say 'hop'."

When Rapolder is done with Stevic in the cage match, my money is on Uwe Wolf in a dark alley behind the Weissesbrauhaus to teach this cocky little nothing of back-stabbing arschloch a lesson. Hey Micki, don't walk alone at night. That dog behind you might just be a wolf.:cool:

[footyfan1]

Just when you thought stupidity could not christen a new poster child, in walks Herr Stevic. In an interview given today to the TZ, Stevic blasted his side in their loss away to "lowly" Koblenz yesterday.


I guess the idiot doesn't remember that "lowly Koblenz" was docked three points before this season started and had they not been, they'd be even with 1860 on points right now.

"Lowly Koblenz" also has the exact same win-loss record as 1860 right now too.

Both clubs have 9 victories, 7 draws and 11 losses.

So, if Koblenz is "lowly", I guess that means 1860 is too.........

[goindownsouth]

So, if Koblenz is "lowly", I guess that means 1860 is too.........

I think that goes without saying for the moment...

[footyfan1]

I think that goes without saying for the moment...


Just adding to the "Stevic = Moron" point LB made.........

[goindownsouth]

Just adding to the "Stevic = Moron" point LB made.........

Pretty much. I am extremely curious to see how the offseason will play out. Like Garry said, it will not be a quiet one...

[LoewenBoy]

Got an email from the producers of this TV show (http://www.janus-tv.de/janustv_d/produktionen/infotainment/meinneuesleben.php) in Germany and they want to send cameras to TX to follow me around.:eek: Problem is, they think I am a German living in the US and not a German-American living in the US.:cool: Replied so we will see if they are still interested.:p

[footyfan1]

Got an email from the producers of this TV show (http://www.janus-tv.de/janustv_d/produktionen/infotainment/meinneuesleben.php) in Germany and they want to send cameras to TX to follow me around.:eek: Problem is, they think I am a German living in the US and not a German-American living in the US.:cool: Replied so we will see if they are still interested.:p


My ex-wife is hooked on that show.