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LoewenBoy
18 May 2009, 05:43 PM
Last group here (http://www.tsv1860.de/de/loewenfans/rasenhasen/votings/2008/17_aachen.php). Probably the best trio of the year...but that ain't saying much.
footyfan1
18 May 2009, 05:44 PM
Last group here (http://www.tsv1860.de/de/loewenfans/rasenhasen/votings/2008/17_aachen.php). Probably the best trio of the year...but that ain't saying much.
Dana.
LoewenBoy
18 May 2009, 05:57 PM
Dana.
LOL...the reason you and I will FOREVER be able to go to a bar, pick our women and NEVER be in conflict. I had Alice.:D
Rumors here (http://www.abendzeitung.de/sport/tsv_1860/106963) that Mathias Lehmann may be coming back to Sechzge. As for others:
Rukavina= Stevic wants to keep
Beda= Likely gone
Schroth= coach or scout or something
Baumgartlinger= new contract:eek:
Danny Schwarz= up in the air
Christoph Burkhard= same
Jose Holebas= same
Many, many more moves to happen.
footyfan1
18 May 2009, 06:17 PM
LOL...the reason you and I will FOREVER be able to go to a bar, pick our women and NEVER be in conflict. I had Alice.:D
No wonder you trust me at your house! LMAO!! :D
Rumors here (http://www.abendzeitung.de/sport/tsv_1860/106963) that Mathias Lehmann may be coming back to Sechzge.
Saw that at "Kicker.de" too. I didn't think anything of it just yet.
BTW, I laughed my ass off yesterday when the fans whistled Milchraum off the pitch.
It was the loudest I heard the stadium all day save for just after the Lauth goal. LOL!!
As for others:
Rukavina= Stevic wants to keep
All he has to do is make BVB a decent offer. Rukavina is not wanted or needed back in Dortmund.
Beda= Likely gone
And I'm sure that will make your day.
Schroth= coach or scout or something
As expected.
Baumgartlinger= new contract:eek:
I said earlier today that after what I saw yesterday, I'd suggest that Sechzig keep him.
Danny Schwarz= up in the air
Boot out the door......
Christoph Burkhard= same
Don't know enough about him.
Jose Holebas= same
I'd keep him around. He actually showed a bit of potential out there on the wing yesterday. And if he isn't kept around, I'm afraid that would mean we would see quite a bit of Fraeulin Pourie next season.......
Many, many more moves to happen.
They'd better. The current team, even with the injured players back, won't do much......
woodythenetminder
19 May 2009, 02:23 PM
LOL...the reason you and I will FOREVER be able to go to a bar, pick our women and NEVER be in conflict. I had Alice.:D.
Is that why Alice is wearing the tiara? That must of cost you some serious scratch.
Back on subject. . .
What are 1860's finances looking like for next season? (Though I suspect the balance sheet is not looking pretty)
Though you don't have much choice; is Lienen the kind of manager you want to develop a team of youngsters? If not and with the anticipated changes coming down; what players are being thought of to bring in on a shoestring budget?
Lienen didn't pull that off at Hannover 96. While I tend to like discipline oriented managers, I also like those that offer tactically sound decision making and are more advanced technically. He does not impres me as such.
This team has the fan support and should be battling or close to promotion every season. However, it continues a history of muddling in mediocrity which is a sad state for a great club.
Personally, I would be looking at getting 2-3 loans on some youngsters from the 1 BL team reserves (especially Bayern), hiring a younger manager like Falko Götz (what is he doing at Holstein Kiel?) and see if you could get the talent to move you up. There are some to clubs that find this a better way to season and develop youngsters when rosters are to strong to allow testing such players in top-flight situations and the talent is to good to waste in 3 BL or Regionalliga action. A case in point is Görlitz.
Add a couple of cheap veterens from soon to be relegated Bielefeld, Cottbus or Karlsruher. I think KSC's Kennedy would be a decent fit. In addition, there are a few decent releases happening within the 2 BL. Pierce at Hansa might fit if he can get his mental focus straightened.
Oh well. You guy's are on the spot. I'm just babbling. I think your ideas would have more cred.
Cheers . . . Woody
panicfc
19 May 2009, 02:38 PM
LOL...the reason you and I will FOREVER be able to go to a bar, pick our women and NEVER be in conflict. I had Alice.:D
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While you and I could never go together. Alice.
panicfc
19 May 2009, 02:40 PM
I don't think Pearce is going to find a deal in Germany after his performance with Rostock.
LoewenBoy
19 May 2009, 02:43 PM
Is that why Alice is wearing the tiara? That must of cost you some serious scratch.
Knee pads :cool:
What are 1860's finances looking like for next season? (Though I suspect the balance sheet is not looking pretty)
No one knows but the DFL. They have not released the books like they have in the past. I suspect it is nto good.
Though you don't have much choice; is Lienen the kind of manager you want to develop a team of youngsters? If not and with the anticipated changes coming down; what players are being thought of to bring in on a shoestring budget?
Washouts, has beens and malcontents. It iwll be 2001 all over with a plethora of talented old guys who play well for a season then turn to shiite.
This team has the fan support and should be battling or close to promotion every season. However, it continues a history of muddling in mediocrity which is a sad state for a great club.
Fans get what they deserve when they elect morons like they have and continue to be concerned about a useless stadium and other nonsensical issues.
Personally, I would be looking at getting 2-3 loans on some youngsters from the 1 BL team reserves (especially Bayern),
I would say guys like Rukavina....who don't get time with their club and want to move...but guys like that are not cheap. We have young talent. We need 24-30 year old talent that is cheap, hungry and can get the job done. No more injured solidiers.
hiring a younger manager like Falko Götz (what is he doing at Holstein Kiel?)
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Reason he is in Kiel? See HSC.
A case in point is Görlitz.
Add a couple of cheap veterens from soon to be relegated Bielefeld, Cottbus or Karlsruher. I think KSC's Kennedy would be a decent fit. In addition, there are a few decent releases happening within the 2 BL. Pierce at Hansa might fit if he can get his mental focus straightened.
Have said for years we need 3-4 key people: 2x solid central defenders with experience, 1x solid playmaker like Goektan, 1x solid striker. Oh, and HEALTH for everyone for longer than 16 games.:mad::D
footyfan1
19 May 2009, 04:38 PM
I don't think Pearce is going to find a deal in Germany after his performance with Rostock.
1860 would take him.
LoewenBoy
19 May 2009, 04:44 PM
I don't think Pearce is going to find a deal in Germany after his performance with Rostock.
1860 would take him.
Oddly enough I LIKE Pearce. I think he has a great work ethic and would fit in well at the club. Sometimes he tries to do too much. I simply want my central defender to be the "enforcer". He's the Harry Callahan of the team and keeps the ball out of the 16m box. Pearce tries these "probing" runs sometimes and then loses the ball and gets it shoved back down his throat...goal!
One thing NOT said above is I think Tschauner is gone. I think they will re/up with Michi and find another keeper as #1. We need a solid, confident, strong keeper back there. Tschauner is just not it. Would not be surprised if he is sold.
LoewenBoy
19 May 2009, 05:03 PM
One thing NOT said above is I think Tschauner is gone. I think they will re/up with Michi and find another keeper as #1. We need a solid, confident, strong keeper back there. Tschauner is just not it. Would not be surprised if he is sold.
And HERE (http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/spieler/1271/alexander-walke/default/2008/leistungsdaten.html) is a candidate....
panicfc
19 May 2009, 09:31 PM
Oddly enough I LIKE Pearce. I think he has a great work ethic and would fit in well at the club. Sometimes he tries to do too much. I simply want my central defender to be the "enforcer". He's the Harry Callahan of the team and keeps the ball out of the 16m box. Pearce tries these "probing" runs sometimes and then loses the ball and gets it shoved back down his throat...goal!
One thing NOT said above is I think Tschauner is gone. I think they will re/up with Michi and find another keeper as #1. We need a solid, confident, strong keeper back there. Tschauner is just not it. Would not be surprised if he is sold.
1860 is not a big enough club for Pearce, or so he would believe.
LoewenBoy
19 May 2009, 10:13 PM
1860 is not a big enough club for Pearce, or so he would believe.
Then two words: Kenny Cooper!!
If 1860 got that guy it would be like having a striker with the head skills of a Marcus Schroth, the speed of a Benny Lauth and the set-up skills of Schaefler.
Since 1860 have ZERO scouts (they fired the last one two weeks ago) perhaps there is someone on BS, with contacts in Germany, who knows a bit about scouting, who could get in touch with 1860 and let them know about Mr. Cooper. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
panicfc
19 May 2009, 10:16 PM
$3 million reasons they won't sign Cooper.
LoewenBoy
19 May 2009, 10:53 PM
$3 million reasons they won't sign Cooper.
We have SOME money!!!!!:confused::eek::cool:
panicfc
19 May 2009, 11:15 PM
We have SOME money!!!!!:confused::eek::cool:
plus he's going to want B1, not B2.
footyfan1
20 May 2009, 03:18 AM
plus he's going to want B1, not B2.
Is he B1 good?
Kicking ass in MLS and making it in the Bundesliga are two TOTALLY different things.....
Over here, Kenny Coopers are a dime a dozen. What makes this one special???
footyfan1
20 May 2009, 03:42 AM
Oddly enough I LIKE Pearce. I think he has a great work ethic and would fit in well at the club. Sometimes he tries to do too much. I simply want my central defender to be the "enforcer". He's the Harry Callahan of the team and keeps the ball out of the 16m box. Pearce tries these "probing" runs sometimes and then loses the ball and gets it shoved back down his throat...goal!
Pearce has to potential to play here for a long time. He just needs to find the right fit like Cherundolo did in Hannover and before him, Joe Enochs did in Osnabrueck.
A place where the club and the fans will be patient with him as he develops. 1860 might not be the place for that with management's Disney World expectations for next season.
One thing NOT said above is I think Tschauner is gone. I think they will re/up with Michi and find another keeper as #1. We need a solid, confident, strong keeper back there. Tschauner is just not it. Would not be surprised if he is sold.
And what exactly are they doing to do with Tschauner Garry? 1860 is on the hook for two more seasons with Tschauner.
Remember? Reuter extended with the kid???
No one in their right mind is going to pay Sechzig money for a mediocre backup goalkeeper and if they just release him, they still have to pay him.
Mediocre backup goalkeepers are something else that is a dime a dozen here in Germany.........
panicfc
20 May 2009, 08:04 AM
Is he B1 good?
Kicking ass in MLS and making it in the Bundesliga are two TOTALLY different things.....
Over here, Kenny Coopers are a dime a dozen. What makes this one special???
He's probably lower B1 good, but the problem is the price tag is around $3 million. Not too many B2 clubs are going to have that, and certainly not 1860.
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Pearce - I think attitude is a major part of his problem. He was talking about playing for Ajax or PSV after Denmark, turned down Frankfurt and ended up at Rostock. Crap agent who has no idea.
Needs a small club where he can grow, and be happy - not always dreaming of Barcelona or Inter.
LoewenBoy
20 May 2009, 08:11 AM
Is he B1 good? Over here, Kenny Coopers are a dime a dozen. What makes this one special???
I have seen Kenny play alot. I think he is a very good, solid player that could make things happen for a club. If he made a BL club it would be a lower-in-the-table club (can you say, "Cottbus or Bielefeld"?). Honestly, I think his best bet would be to make a 2.BL club and really show his stuff. I think THEN he would get gobbled up by the likes of a Hanover or Wolfsburg or Frankfurt in no time.
Pearce has to potential to play here for a long time. He just needs to find the right fit like Cherundolo did in Hannover and before him, Joe Enochs did in Osnabrueck.
Agreed. I think he would do very well at Pauli or another club like that which has a strong defensive team, where he can learn and grow. I am afraid, as much as I think he would fin in at Sechzge, that ANY player we bring in at central mid is going to be under TREMENDOUS pressure to be the messiah that saves our defense.
A place where the club and the fans will be patient with him as he develops. 1860 might not be the place for that with management's Disney World expectations for next season.
Might not?!?!?!? You clearly had a good lunch and are having a good day to write that.:cool: Out club is the center of the Irrational Thoughts and Expectations Universe. They would whistle him within 3 games only three weeks after decalring what a good signing he was.:rolleyes:
And what exactly are they doing to do with Tschauner Garry? 1860 is on the hook for two more seasons with Tschauner.
Am hearing that he may be loaned out to a 3.BL club. That would take him off our books (not that expensive anyway from what I understand) and would not require a transfer. I think there are plenty of clubs looking for a keeper.
Even if they don't I think we should still go after Walke. He is free and is a good keeper. Also, I don't think we are going to find a better, more experienced keeper we can afford. although, part of me thinks Leinen is going to see if he can "mold" Tschauner into a great keeper.:rolleyes: