England Game

[3lionsCT]

Any idea why Setanta are not showing the England game on residential pay per view?

Are Setanta trying to kill off residential PPV in favour of going to bars? Is it really more profitable to send it only to bars?

I for one are not going to travel 100 miles to watch it in a bar!

[Sachin]

Originally posted by 3lionsCT
Any idea why Setanta are not showing the England game on residential pay per view?

Are Setanta trying to kill off residential PPV in favour of going to bars? Is it really more profitable to send it only to bars?

I for one are not going to travel 100 miles to watch it in a bar!

It's far more profitable to sell to bars. It may be your cable system that isn't offering the England game on PPV. Although that's just conjecture on my part.

Sachin

[gunner's fan]

Maybe Setanta doesn't have residential rights.I know this happened in 2004 qualifier against Turkey.My EPG guide for Dish is showing the match on RTPI tomorrow at 4:30 EST but soccertv.com doesn't have it listed.Does anybody know if it's RTPI or not?

[RacaVocals]

It will be on RTPi :

http://programas.rtp.pt/EPG/epg-dia.php?datai=-1&dia=18-02-2004&sem=e&canal=5&gen=&time=

[DAGSports]

Originally posted by gunner's fan
Maybe Setanta doesn't have residential rights.I know this happened in 2004 qualifier against Turkey.My EPG guide for Dish is showing the match on RTPI tomorrow at 4:30 EST but soccertv.com doesn't have it listed.Does anybody know if it's RTPI or not?

I think the home team is usually allowed to sell all TV rights. For England home matches, Octagon CSI probably sells residential/bar PPV rights to Setanta in a package that quite possibly also includes the FA Cup. The cost for away games may be more to get both home/bar rights, and since it is more profitable to sell to bars, maybe Setanta just decided to buy the bar rights to the game. There is also the matter of getting iNDemand and other PPV providers to offer the game.

[da_cfo]

Setanta will put a stop to this.

Guaranteed.

RTPi - North America is re-uplinked out of New Jersey.

Setanta will make sure that the re-uplink will have Portugal vs England BLACKED OUT so that cable and DISH Network subscribers in the US will NOT get Portugal vs England.



Originally posted by RacaVocals
It will be on RTPi :

http://programas.rtp.pt/EPG/epg-dia.php?datai=-1&dia=18-02-2004&sem=e&canal=5&gen=&time=

[rangers00]

Originally posted by da_cfo
Setanta will put a stop to this.

Guaranteed.

RTPi - North America is re-uplinked out of New Jersey.

Setanta will make sure that the re-uplink will have Portugal vs England BLACKED OUT so that cable and DISH Network subscribers in the US will NOT get Portugal vs England.

The way to get it is to get the uplink from Europe to PAS9, which sends the downlink to New Jersey. I would be eager to see how Setanta would order Portugal to black out the uplink from Portugal to PAS9...

The way to beat Setanta's bully crap is to get a DirecTV Latin America (which features RTPi for Latin America) or C-band (which gets RTPi on PAS9). I would be eagar to see Setanta, for owning the rights of USA and Canada, stopping all fans in South/Central America to watch the game...

[RacaVocals]

I don't believe thats possible since the rights to the game belong to the country that the game is in, I know setanta represents england games, but this one is in portugal. So I don't think your rationalization applies.

[rangers00]

Originally posted by RacaVocals
I don't believe thats possible since the rights to the game belong to the country that the game is in, I know setanta represents england games, but this one is in portugal. So I don't think your rationalization applies.

There was this one previous incident:

- November 2001, World Cup qualifying playoff between Ireland and Iran.

- 1st leg in Dublin, Ireland x Iran
Setanta acquired the exclusive American rights from the Irish FA, and thus prevented all other carriers, especially Iran TV and Irib2 from broadcasting the game on FTA Ku band satellite. These two channels had been broadcasting almost all of Iranian national team's games up to that point, including all the AFC qualifier of Group A. As it turned out, Irib2 had two guys sitting in a studio describing the live action, but no video. Whoever wanted to watch the game must watch it in a Setanta pub.

Irib2 got the delay rights, though, and broadcasted the game half a day later...

- 2nd leg in Teheran, Iran x Ireland
Setanta acquired the exclusive ***commercial*** rights for America, probably from the Irish FA or Irish TV, but that rights could not prohibit Irib2 from televising the games to residential Iranian expats in the U.S. In other words, I watched the game in Farsi at the comfort of my home, FOR FREE. Setanta, even on the web-site, put up a lame-duck statement, something like

"this game might also be available on FTA Iranian TV", or something like that... Of course, because they didn't have the exclusive rights. Claiming exclusive telecast would be false advertising...

In other words, Setanta couldn't do jack in some instances, when they didn't buy the game directly from the FA of the home team.

[Wi$eguy]

Was the match blacked out on DishNet?

Just curious.

I did watch it on PAS9

-Wi$e