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Vfbstuttgartfan
14 Apr 2009, 10:01 AM
Bit of a late answer, but maaan that was an awesome game!

It was close, HSV hit the crossbar twice, but overall i'd say we were the better side and deserved the win. We pushed the whole second half, just couldn't put our chances away. I didn't think we'd make it anymore, but then just when it seemed too late, Super Mario turns up to smash the ball into the net. An the Kurve went mental. :)

That's two late wins in a row now, what great fighting spirit from the side! What Babbel has done out of this side is incredible. Right now we are one of the best performing teams in Germany. It's a shame we wasted the first 14 matches of the season, but this has been an excellent comeback. Following this win i'm now quite confident we'll make the top 5, we've managed to build a small gap between us and Hoppenheim, Schalke, Dortmund and Leverkusen, and that is crucial. And hopes for a Champions League spot aren't dead yet either. Wouldn't that be amazing. But that is still very hard to achieve.

But we now need to take things one game at a time: next week is Koeln away, if we play to our best we can win there, but we mustn't underestimate them.

Either way this was an awesome win, felt even better than the Bochum one.

Vfbstuttgartfan
14 Apr 2009, 10:03 AM
@Benztown:

I also still see us finishing about fourth in the end. But anything is possible.

I'd agree in that i'd also still pick Bayern to be champion if I had to guess.

Vfbstuttgartfan
14 Apr 2009, 10:13 AM
Player Ratings:

Jens Lehmann: Kicker Rating: 2.5 (27 games played, 3.07 avg. rating)
My Rating: 2.5

Christian Traesch: KR: 2 (12 games played, 10 as starter, 3.45 avg. rating)
MR: 3

Serdar Tasci: KR: 3 (25 games played, 3.26 avg. rating)
MR: 3.5

Matthieu Delpierre: KR: 3 (17 games played, 3.53 avg. rating)
MR: 2

Ludovic Magnin: KR: 3.5 (16 games played, 14 as starter, 4.27 avg. rating)
MR: 3.5

Martin Lanig: KR: 3.5 (20 games palyed, 13 as starter, 3.57 avg. rating)
MR: 5

Thomas Hitzlsperger: KR: 3 (26 games played, 25 as starter, 3.40 avg. rating)
MR: 2.5

Roberto Hilbert: KR: 3 (24 games played, 19 as starter, 3.74 avg. rating)
MR: 3.5

Timo Gebhart: KR: 4 (5 games played, 4 as starter, 3.80 avg. rating)
MR: 3.5

Mario Gomez: KR: 2.5 (26 games played, 25 as starter, 3.33 avg. rating)
MR: 2 - Man of the Match

Ciprian Marica: KR: 5 (21 games played, 14 as starter, 4.17 avg. rating)
MR: 5

SUBS:

Julian Schieber: KR: 4 (9 games played, 0 as starter, 4.00 avg. rating)
MR: 3

Jan Simak: KR: No Rating (16 games played, 11 as starter, 4.12 avg. rating)
MR: 3

squidward123
14 Apr 2009, 12:46 PM
i think gomez should wear a vfb shirt under his germany one next time....SERIOUSLY

footyfan1
15 Apr 2009, 09:01 AM
i think gomez should wear a vfb shirt under his germany one next time....SERIOUSLY


I think he might actually try that! LOL!!

Fußballgott
15 Apr 2009, 11:41 AM
Alternativly Löw could play a game using only VfB players.
If Gomez still doesn't score it's the shirt.

squidward123
15 Apr 2009, 12:05 PM
Alternativly Löw could play a game using only VfB players.
If Gomez still doesn't score it's the shirt.

LOL...hilarious

Vfbstuttgartfan
15 Apr 2009, 05:17 PM
Hey, Cacau is German now ;)

My proposition:
--------------Lehmann
Hinkel----Tasci---------Babbel------Lahm
----------Hitzlsperger---Khedira
Hilbert----------------------------Gebhart
----------Gomez-----Cacau

:)

TheBoss84
15 Apr 2009, 06:13 PM
Thats right he is a German citizen and has never been nominated for Brasil, wich makes him eligible for Germany lol.

TheBoss84
15 Apr 2009, 06:16 PM
BTW, how does he have dual nationality if he hasnt any German blood in him. My mother for example is Colombian, but had to quit the Colombian nationality in order to get German one because she doesnt have german blood.

Equilibrium
15 Apr 2009, 07:15 PM
He would never get a chance with Germany, he would actually have a better chance with Brazil than Germany atm.

footyfan1
16 Apr 2009, 07:20 AM
He would never get a chance with Germany, he would actually have a better chance with Brazil than Germany atm.

EQ, if you really believe that, I think you're nuts. Brazil shits international class strikers.

At the moment, after Klose, Gomez and Helmes, Germany can't do any better than Podolski.

And you tell us Cacau would have a better chance with Brazil than Germany?

Put down the crack pipe bro.

Stop smoking the "Germany is the best no matter what" crack and get real man. :cool:

squidward123
16 Apr 2009, 08:01 AM
why is podolski marginalised, hes better than all but klose internationally?

aloisius
16 Apr 2009, 10:34 AM
BTW, how does he have dual nationality if he hasnt any German blood in him. My mother for example is Colombian, but had to quit the Colombian nationality in order to get German one because she doesnt have german blood.

the citizenship law was changed

footyfan1
16 Apr 2009, 11:03 AM
why is podolski marginalised, hes better than all but klose internationally?


Because everyone else gets a shot based on their club performances.

Podolski is there basically because Germany can't do any better.

Even if I were starting a team to play international football and could not take Klose, I'd take Gomez, Helmes and even Kuranyi before I take the "Lichtenstein, San Marino and Poland Killer" Podolski.......

squidward123
16 Apr 2009, 03:05 PM
Podolski is there basically because Germany can't do any better.


he does very well for germany, how could they do much better?

If helmes and gomez step up then sure but at the moment podolski does well enough to disregard his club performances.

If he wasn't "in" already then he'd never get in based on club performances which is what gets you in the NT, but he's been such a fixture and done well (regularly setting up or scoring) in the NT that now it's like a seperate entity...

and as long as helmes or gomez dont step up for the NT loew wont have to make the call between them and podolski

footyfan1
16 Apr 2009, 03:22 PM
he does very well for germany, how could they do much better?

If helmes and gomez step up then sure but at the moment podolski does well enough to disregard his club performances.

If he wasn't "in" already then he'd never get in based on club performances which is what gets you in the NT, but he's been such a fixture and done well (regularly setting up or scoring) in the NT that now it's like a seperate entity...

and as long as helmes or gomez dont step up for the NT loew wont have to make the call between them and podolski


squid, this isn't the right place for this conversation. It has totally gotten away from Cacau.

I'll just say we don't agree and let that be it. If you can't see what you're missing in your "logic", then I'm not going to tell you.

squidward123
16 Apr 2009, 03:27 PM
squid, this isn't the right place for this conversation. It has totally gotten away from Cacau.

I'll just say we don't agree and let that be it. If you can't see what you're missing in your "logic", then I'm not going to tell you.

how can they step up with poldi in the way? i dont think they shud be allowed to until he isnt playing well enough for the nt anymore

so overall we dont agree

carry on with the stuttgart discussion.

Equilibrium
16 Apr 2009, 11:47 PM
Because everyone else gets a shot based on their club performances.

Podolski is there basically because Germany can't do any better.

Even if I were starting a team to play international football and could not take Klose, I'd take Gomez, Helmes and even Kuranyi before I take the "Lichtenstein, San Marino and Poland Killer" Podolski.......
Really, he has better international record than all Brazilian strikers for NT. He can score against small and big teams. Podolski has scored vs more bigger teams than Miroslav Klose, I see no one mention his name.

Adriano quit, Ronaldo I doubt will be called up. No one else in the Brazilian national team is proven bar Fabiano who is class. None of Brazil's strikers are as good as Klose internationally, none play as good as Poldi either. This is one of Germany's best group of strikers in their history imo, Brazil atm is the complete opposite. I definitely think Germany's strikers as whole or even starters are better than Brazil's.

If you want to rate Brazil because of their name, than be my guest. ;) They are having trouble in qualifiers because of good reasons.

Equilibrium
16 Apr 2009, 11:49 PM
squid, this isn't the right place for this conversation. It has totally gotten away from Cacau.

I'll just say we don't agree and let that be it. If you can't see what you're missing in your "logic", then I'm not going to tell you.
I can't see it either because normal logic says that if you run sh#t internationally and score/assist without problems like Podolski does, I could care less if you're the worst striker in club level.