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Ottawa MLS Fan
26 Feb 2009, 08:11 AM
Fellow Ottawa soccer fans, we are entering the final phase of this round of MLS expansion and the outcome is still very much in doubt. We need to make sure that Ottawa City Council are in no doubt that about the level of support for soccer in Ottawa. Nothing gets politican's attention like the possibility of thousands of disgruntled voters.

The following is a quote from a Montreal Impact player after yesterday's game, played in front of over 55,000 people in Montreal. If you want MLS Soccer in Ottawa, make sure your councillors get the message that there is support for soccer in Ottawa as well.

"The support we had in the stands was unbelievable … everybody wants to make it seem like this is a hockey nation. This is not a hockey nation, this is a soccer nation," said midfielder Sandro Grande, who played a key role in the win.

Here are the e-mail addresses of council members. Use them to let council know how you feel. Make your voice heard:
Georges.Bedard@ottawa.ca; Michel.Bellemare@ottawa.ca; Rainer.Bloess@ottawa.ca; Glenn.Brooks@ottawa.ca; Rick.Chiarelli@ottawa.ca; Alex.Cullen@ottawa.ca; Diane.Deans@ottawa.ca; Steve.Desroches@ottawa.ca; Clive.Doucet@ottawa.ca; Eli.El-Chantiry@ottawa.ca; Peggy.Feltmate@ottawa.ca; Jan.Harder@ottawa.ca; Diane.Holmes@ottawa.ca; Peter.Hume@ottawa.ca; Gord.Hunter@ottawa.ca; Rob.Jellett@ottawa.ca; Kitchissippi@ottawa.ca; Jacques.Legendre@ottawa.ca; Maria.Mcrae@ottawa.ca; Bob.Monette@ottawa.ca; Shad.Qadri@ottawa.ca; Doug.Thompson@ottawa.ca; Marianne.Wilkinson@ottawa.ca; Larry.OBrien@ottawa.ca

Also write to the Ottawa Citizen, the Ottawa Sun, Dalton McGuinty, Larry O'Brien's Blog, the Ottawa MLS Facebook group and anywhere else you can think of. We can still win this, but we need to show real support.

FandesRens
26 Feb 2009, 01:12 PM
it won't hurt to send it... But you should know that councilors get hundreds of these, each arguing the merits of CFL football, MLS Soccer, non of the above, Lacrosse etc.etc.

So I think most of them will be glanced at and forgotten.

But like I said, it won't hurt to send it.

Ottawa MLS Fan
26 Feb 2009, 01:21 PM
it won't hurt to send it... But you should know that councilors get hundreds of these, each arguing the merits of CFL football, MLS Soccer, non of the above, Lacrosse etc.etc.

So I think most of them will be glanced at and forgotten.

But like I said, it won't hurt to send it.

Agreed, but I have had a few questions back from Jan Harder, Bob Monette and Gord Hunter recently, as well as from Randall Denley and Richard Starnes of the Citizen, so they do read and question what is raised to them. I certainly wouldn't go as far as to say it would sway their opinion, but ...

The thing I most want to avoid is soccer fans assuming there is no point in voicing their opinions to councillors, and this being perceived as a lack of interest by any of them.

AdamSoucie
28 Feb 2009, 12:53 AM
Good luck with the campaign, I hope its successful. I'm considering trying something similar with the Orlando USL bid.

Ottawa MLS Fan
28 Feb 2009, 08:29 PM
Good luck with the campaign, I hope its successful. I'm considering trying something similar with the Orlando USL bid.

Appreciate the support, buddy. I don't think there is any one approach that works in things like this, it's a combination of things, but if you have a good bid from a solid ownership group, it's up to the public to back it up and show their support.

Good luck with the USL bid!

Ottawa MLS Fan
03 Mar 2009, 08:50 PM
It's official - Miami is out of this round!!

http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20090303&content_id=221343&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp

If only we can get the council on side, we might just win this thing.

AdamSoucie
03 Mar 2009, 09:36 PM
The odds are certainly better, although Ives is saying Vancouver is the front-runner now. Having both slots awarded to Canadian teams, while probably a great idea, is unlikely to happen.

Ottawa MLS Fan
03 Mar 2009, 09:43 PM
The odds are certainly better, although Ives is saying Vancouver is the front-runner now. Having both slots awarded to Canadian teams, while probably a great idea, is unlikely to happen.

I agree that two Canadian teams are probably unlikely, assuming that there are more than two teams left in the race at the end, but I would still put the Ottawa bid in front of Vancouver, only because of the SSS.

ChicagoFC (FireClub)
03 Mar 2009, 09:45 PM
if you want to make an impression, you can always try to upstage the PDX rally with a larger one.

AdamSoucie
03 Mar 2009, 10:02 PM
It certainly couldn't hurt :)

Ottawa MLS Fan
03 Mar 2009, 10:07 PM
It would be good to demonstrate support for soccer to MLS and to Ottawa Council.

Coup de boule
03 Mar 2009, 10:38 PM
if you want to make an impression, you can always try to upstage the PDX rally with a larger one.

It certainly couldn't hurt :)

Do you know how cold it is here right now?

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/caon0512

;)

FandesRens
03 Mar 2009, 10:42 PM
So it looks as if Portland and Vancouver will be in for 2011...

http://24thminute.blogspot.com/2009/03/vancouver-and-portland-win-expansion.html

:(

Ottawa MLS Fan
03 Mar 2009, 10:42 PM
Do you know how cold it is here right now?

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/caon0512

;)

but it is getting warmer :cool:

AdamSoucie
03 Mar 2009, 10:44 PM
Clarifying, it couldn't hurt the bid. The cold will hurt like hell, though ;)

TOareaFan
03 Mar 2009, 10:47 PM
The odds are certainly better, although Ives is saying Vancouver is the front-runner now. Having both slots awarded to Canadian teams, while probably a great idea, is unlikely to happen.

I am thinking more and more that this will either be an All-Canadian expansion or an All American one.

The biggest issue the Canadian teams have is convincing MLS that they add economic value (read sponsorship/marketing value) to the league. If you bring the total Canadian contingent to 3 you have a better chance to draw large, national, Canadian sponsorship deals that offset the fact that two more Canadian teams do little to the value of the US deals.

So, if Vancouver really is the clear front runner....then I think that is good for Ottawa.

Ottawa MLS Fan
03 Mar 2009, 10:50 PM
So it looks as if Portland and Vancouver will be in for 2011...

http://24thminute.blogspot.com/2009/03/vancouver-and-portland-win-expansion.html

:(

One consistent thing in this whole process is that every single rumour from a "high placed" source has been wrong. Maybe this is the one that breaks the streak, but it ain't over yet.

AdamSoucie
03 Mar 2009, 10:55 PM
The biggest thing hurting Ottawa right now is the lack of government support for the stadium (as of now). Obviously, MLS doesn't like to take chances. If they did, St. Louis would have had a franchise years ago.

Ottawa MLS Fan
05 Mar 2009, 07:44 AM
The biggest thing hurting Ottawa right now is the lack of government support for the stadium (as of now). Obviously, MLS doesn't like to take chances. If they did, St. Louis would have had a franchise years ago.

If MLS really like the Ottawa bid as much as they are saying, but they can't wait for the council decision, maybe they will award Ottawa a conditional franchise for 2012. At least that would put the Melnyk bid on an equal footing with the CFL in discussions with council.

KLR650
05 Mar 2009, 08:40 AM
Why would MLS want to grant a conditional franchise?

If St. Louis, Vancouver or Portland get a franchise, MLS cashes $40 million cheques. Now if Melnyk is willing to give MLS a $40 million non-refundable deposit for an Ottawa team, I'm sure they'd be happy to oblige.

Ottawa does not have a SSS, a finalized location for a SSS, blueprints for a SSS or funding for an SSS. Melnyk has a nice artist's rendering for a SSS. Ottawa can't even use Lansdowne unless the lower stands are rebuilt.

St. Louis does not have a SSS either, but everything else is lined up. That's a huge difference.

Vancouver does not have a SSS. But Kerfoot owns some land, and will finance the stadium by himself. You've got to say that Vancouver is farther along the SSS path than Ottawa. And at least Vancouver has a temporary/permanent home at BC Place.