Don Cherry gets muzzled

[DoyleG]

http://www.mytelus.com/sports/article.do?pageID=nhl/home&articleID=1522443&

[stevewhit0]

He needs to calm down someone send him a picture of Rush.

[Daniel from Montréal]

In typical Don Cherry style, they're doing it like the Americans.

Fire the redneck and get a quality first intermission!

[DoyleG]

Originally posted by stevewhit0
He needs to calm down someone send him a picture of Rush.

He states his opinion the he wants to. It's just that some people get out of joint more than those south of the 49th.

The again, those with their noses out of joint are the classified "Historical Wimps of Canada".

[JMU Soccer!]

He's an xenophobic dinosaur who's act wore thin over a decade ago.

[DoyleG]

NHL community reacts to Cherry news.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=71320&hubName=

[BlueMeanie]

Originally posted by JMU Soccer!
He's an xenophobic dinosaur who's act wore thin over a decade ago.
Yeah, but he's still original, and often quite funny. I don't have to agree with someone politically to think he's funny. Nobody should take him seriously, and HNiC wouldn't be the same without him. It's hard to believe some of the things given as examples are considered "controversial" up there (Calling a kid a hotdog? Being against visors? Causing that scummy piece of **** Graham James to feel "scared"? Give me a break). It's not like he's grabbed any tit during intermission or anything.

Anyone who disagrees is a French Guy.

[Daniel from Montréal]

Originally posted by BlueMeanie
Yeah, but he's still original, and often quite funny. I don't have to agree with someone politically to think he's funny. Nobody should take him seriously, and HNiC wouldn't be the same without him. It's hard to believe some of the things given as examples are considered "controversial" up there (Calling a kid a hotdog? Being against visors? Causing that scummy piece of **** Graham James to feel "scared"? Give me a break). It's not like he's grabbed any tit during intermission or anything.

Anyone who disagrees is a French Guy.

Like I've mentionned elsewhere, the debate is not if he's entertaining (he is for a lot of people) or if he's xenophobic and racist (ditto), but rather should taxpayers be paying 700,000$ for this man to degrade them (Francophones are around 25% of the population)? CBC is a public television station and is publicly funded. Let him be an ass on private television if he wants.

And just like to turn the tables on Americans for a sec: remember Limbaugh and McNabb? That's not half as bad as some of the stuff Cherry says (AND it was on private TV) and Limbaugh had to step down within a week. Imagine a commentator saying that, in baseball, those who wear wrist protectors are all "Latinos and Black guys".

There's a reason people are pissed.

[BlueMeanie]

Originally posted by Daniel from Montréal
Like I've mentionned elsewhere, the debate is not if he's entertaining (he is for a lot of people) or if he's xenophobic and racist (ditto), but rather should taxpayers be paying 700,000$ for this man to degrade them (Francophones are around 25% of the population)? CBC is a public television station and is publicly funded. Let him be an ass on private television if he wants.
I had no idea about the taxpayers paying for it to be on TV up there. I can understand why those who are upset resent having to pay to see that kind of stuff. Down here, it's the advertisers who freak out when people do controversial stuff on TV.
And just like to turn the tables on Americans for a sec: remember Limbaugh and McNabb? That's not half as bad as some of the stuff Cherry says (AND it was on private TV) and Limbaugh had to step down within a week. Imagine a commentator saying that, in baseball, those who wear wrist protectors are all "Latinos and Black guys".
Unlike Cherry, who has an extensive background in hockey as a player, coach and announcer, Limbaugh doesn't know **** and should never have been in position to make that statement. He played high school football, sort of (he was a kicker) and worked for the baseball KC Royals' PR department for a short time, but he has no real background in football. The people at ABC/ESPN who put him on the air fully expected him to say controversial crap, I just don't think they expected the backlash. Afterward, even some black athletes and commentators said they had more of a problem with the way Rush said what he said than the actual content.

FWiW, we had a much worse incident than anything Cherry said, on Monday Night Football, back in the 80s, when a black Washington Redskins player was running for a long touchdown and famous, beloved announcer Howard Cosell said, "Look at that monkey go." I don't remember if Cosell finished that season in the booth, but he definitely retired after that season.

And, BTW, are people more pissed at Cherry or the network? The network has known for a long time what Cherry says (and could potentially say), yet they have continued to put him on for years. Is this latest incident really that bad, or is it just the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back?

[DoyleG]

Originally posted by BlueMeanie
I had no idea about the taxpayers paying for it to be on TV up there. I can understand why those who are upset resent having to pay to see that kind of stuff. Down here, it's the advertisers who freak out when people do controversial stuff on TV.

The people most upset with Cherry tend to be those of the very politically correct scene. The French speaking population have their own channel, Radio-Canada, to express their own views.

Advertisers are more than willing to work with Cherry on various deals. Don's late 1st wife Rose even did some commercials. Even then their are people who figure that he should be what they want, not what the majority want.

Originally posted by BlueMeanie
And, BTW, are people more pissed at Cherry or the network? The network has known for a long time what Cherry says (and could potentially say), yet they have continued to put him on for years. Is this latest incident really that bad, or is it just the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back?

The incident has been blown out of proportions. People who complain about Cherry tend to have a view of Canada that should be theirs. This has brought them in conflict with Cherry on a number of occasions well before this one.

[Daniel from Montréal]

Originally posted by BlueMeanie
FWiW, we had a much worse incident than anything Cherry said, on Monday Night Football, back in the 80s, when a black Washington Redskins player was running for a long touchdown and famous, beloved announcer Howard Cosell said, "Look at that monkey go." I don't remember if Cosell finished that season in the booth, but he definitely retired after that season.

And, BTW, are people more pissed at Cherry or the network? The network has known for a long time what Cherry says (and could potentially say), yet they have continued to put him on for years. Is this latest incident really that bad, or is it just the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back?

1. CBC is public television.
2. Howard Cossell apparently was refering to the player's agility (from what I've read and from an amazing HBO movie called Monday Night Mayhem.
3. The general thought here is that Cherry is a redneck idiot but that he has a right to his opinion. Where people take issue is the constant softness of the CBC producers to do nothing about it (fear of Anglo public backlash and loss of LOTS of advertising dollars) and that he's still getting paid with our tax dollars (apparently the delay was impossible to apply and next time a similar incident happens, the network will immediately cut to the commercial).

And DoyleG can say people are overreacting from his vantage point, 4 provinces away, but I don't think he can truly judge the situation from there and without the other side of the medal from the Francophone media.

[patrickm]

Originally posted by BlueMeanie
I had no idea about the taxpayers paying for it to be on TV up there. I can understand why those who are upset resent having to pay to see that kind of stuff. Down here, it's the advertisers who freak out when people do controversial stuff on TV.

Unlike Cherry, who has an extensive background in hockey as a player, coach and announcer, Limbaugh doesn't know **** and should never have been in position to make that statement. He played high school football, sort of (he was a kicker) and worked for the baseball KC Royals' PR department for a short time, but he has no real background in football. The people at ABC/ESPN who put him on the air fully expected him to say controversial crap, I just don't think they expected the backlash. Afterward, even some black athletes and commentators said they had more of a problem with the way Rush said what he said than the actual content.

FWiW, we had a much worse incident than anything Cherry said, on Monday Night Football, back in the 80s, when a black Washington Redskins player was running for a long touchdown and famous, beloved announcer Howard Cosell said, "Look at that monkey go." I don't remember if Cosell finished that season in the booth, but he definitely retired after that season.

And, BTW, are people more pissed at Cherry or the network? The network has known for a long time what Cherry says (and could potentially say), yet they have continued to put him on for years. Is this latest incident really that bad, or is it just the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back?


yes, howard cossell said that. but howard was not a racist. he had a long track record of being very progressive, actually. by 1983 he was "losing it." when he made the remark about the redskins player he then denied saying it about 15 minuts later. i really think he ws just so senile he didn't remember saying it.
as for cherry, he is a dope. his style of hockey nearly ruined the nhl in the 70s. he never appreciated hockey as art, the way the canadiens of the 70s or the soviets of the 70s used to play the game