new 442

[655321]

I haven't seen the issue, but there's an interesting story on the official site about it...

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N143686040204-1603.htm

[Twenty26Six]

I've got this awful feeling in my stomach. It could be mistaken for anger. I think to rectify the problem I will go to the local mall. I'm going to hunt out the first person with any Manc replica wear on. I am going to scissor tackle him, and stamp him with two feet.

But yea, on a more serious note, that is some BS. Their sweet little time in the sunshine is almost over. The class of '92 is almost done, and Dutchess Fergie keeps signing soft Brasilians and Portugese players. The 4-5-1, with everyone on Ruud's shoulders isn't going to win any cups. Anyways, off to the mall... but first I need to change out my boots to longer metal studs.

[idi amin]

Originally posted by kold_77_krush
I've got this awful feeling in my stomach. It could be mistaken for anger. I think to rectify the problem I will go to the local mall. I'm going to hunt out the first person with any Manc replica wear on. I am going to scissor tackle him, and stamp him with two feet.

But yea, on a more serious note, that is some BS. Their sweet little time in the sunshine is almost over. The class of '92 is almost done, and Dutchess Fergie keeps signing soft Brasilians and Portugese players. The 4-5-1, with everyone on Ruud's shoulders isn't going to win any cups. Anyways, off to the mall... but first I need to change out my boots to longer metal studs.

Good idea i usually just use Manchester replica gear for an ashtray when see one in public. Its acually kind of interesting the way the shirt responds to acute heat in the form of a ember or cherry. I also usually try to take a pic with my cam phone of the lucky individual and note the location. I am doing this with a Man City friend of mine and hope to have our web page up this week. basically just a map with pics and points where we greeted Man U fans.

[LiverpoolFanatic]

typical really

[oojason]

A PROPER Top 50-odd Moments in Europe

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php/topic,25126

"Liverpoolfc.tv are proud to present our own totally unbiased version of FourFourTwo magazine's 50 Greatest European Moments.

In compiling the list we came across a slight problem though. Britain's most successful club in European competition and the last continental cup winners from these shores have experienced more than 50 great moments. Strange when you consider FourFourTwo could only remember two!

So, here goes – Liverpool Football Club's 64 Greatest European moments...

1. Crazy Horse holding aloft our first European Cup in Rome. No other words needed – May 1977.

2. Alan Kennedy's successful penalty conversion to win a fourth European Cup against AS Roma on their own ground – May 1984.

3. King Kenny's attempt to hurdle the advertising hoardings at Wembley after his delicate chip set us on the way to becoming the first British club to retain the European Cup – May 1978.

4. Scousers in 'Gay Paree' celebrating Barney Rubble's European Cup winner v Real Madrid – May 1981.

5. Supersub Davey Fairclough rocking Anfield to its foundations with THAT goal against St Etienne – March 1977.

6. 'Oh Inter 1-2-3, Go Back To Italy – joyous Kopites serenading the world renowned starts of Internazionale with their rendition of 'Santa Lucia' after the memorable European Cup semi-final first leg victory – May 1965.

7. Gerard Houllier's emotional return to the dugout against AS Roma in the Champions League, just four months after undergoing life-saving heart surgery – March 2002.

8. Delfin Geli's UEFA Cup Final 'golden goal' in Dortmund that breaks Alaves hearts and completes our unprecedented cup treble – May 2001.

9. Tommy Smith's 'Roy of the Rovers' style bullet header in the European Cup final victory over Borussia Moenchengladbach – May 1977.

10. Mark Walters completing the most unlikely European comeback to clinch a dramatic 3-2 aggregate victory against Auxerre – November 1991.

11. Brucie's 'spaghetti legs' routine amid the tension of the '84 European Cup Final penalty shoot-out and Graziani's subsequent misses – May 1984.

12. The mass pilgrimage of fans to Rome in 1977 and the sea of red and white chequered flags that greeted Liverpool's arrival in the Eternal City – May 1977.

13. Tommy Smith running around Borussia Moenchengladach's Bokelburg Stadium with the UEFA Cup in his arms and a fan hanging from his neck – May 1973.

14. Gary Mac's penalty v Barcelona that booked our UEFA Cup Final date with Alaves – April 2001.

15. Gordon Wallace netting Liverpool's first ever goal in European competition after just 180 seconds of the 5-0 win in Reykjavik – August 1964.

16. Joey Jones hurling cushions back into the Barcelona crowd as the home fans vent their anger following Liverpool's historic win in the Nou Camp. – April 1976.

17. Rookie substitute Howie Gayle running the experienced Bayern Munich defence ragged in the Olympic Stadium – April 1981.

18. Beating Cologne on the toss of a coin the European Cup quarter-final play-off – March 1965.

19. Michael Owen's brace of goals in Rome – February 2001.

20. Ray Clemence's crucial penalty save from Borussia Moenchengladbach's Jupp Heynckes in the UEFA Cup final first leg – May 1973.

21. Steam rising from the Kop on the night Celtic came to Anfield for the European Cup Winners Cup semi-final, second leg – April 1966.

22. Kevin Keegan's well drilled free-kick that blasts through FC Bruges' defensive wall and clinches our second UEFA Cup –May 1976.

23. The Liverpool players belting out the Chris Rea classic 'I Don't Know What It Is, But I Love It' prior to the European Cup Final against Roma – May 1984.

24. Shankly's decision to drop Brian Hall and bring in John Toshack after the first leg of the UEFA Cup final against Borussia Moenchengladbach was abandoned – May 1973.

25. The stunning hat-trick by Alun Evans that destroyed the mighty Bayern Munich at Anfield – March 1971.

26. Phil Thompson taking the European Cup back to The Falcon, his local in Kirkby, after captaining the Reds to victory over Real Madrid – May 1981.

27. Bill Shankly persuading over 50,000 Liverpudlians that the Reds could overturn a 5-1 first leg deficit in the European Cup against Ajax – December 1966.

28. Spanish referee Garcia Aranda changing his mind and awarding AS Roma a corner and not a penalty as the minutes crucially ticked by in a pulsating UEFA Cup fourth round second leg – February 2001.

29. A limping Geoff Strong heading Liverpool into their first European final as Celtic were beaten 2-0 in the Cup Winners Cup at Anfield – April 1966.

30. Running up our record score, 11-0, against the hapless part-timers of Stromsgodset Drammen – September 1974.

31. Wearing all-red for the first time in the European Cup against Anderlecht – November 1964.

32. Ruining Kevin Keegan's Anfield homecoming by thumping his new side SV Hamburg 6-0 in the European Super Cup – December 1977.

33. Robbie Fowler's spectacular goal in the away leg of the Cup Winners Cup tie v Brann Bergen – March 1997.

34. Tongue in cheek Kopites cheering for Reykjavik as Liverpool cantered to an 11-1 aggregate victory in our first ever-European tie – September 1964.

35. Becoming the first British team to win in Kiev just four days after Gerard Houllier had been taken ill – October 2001.

36. Joe Fagan dancing on the dressing room table after Liverpool had beaten Dinamo Bucharest to qualify for the European Cup Final – April 1984.

37. Steve McManaman's last gasp wonder striker that levelled the score at Celtic Park in a thrilling first round UEFA Cup tie – September 1997.

38. Thommo's last-ditch goal-line clearance to deny FC Bruges an undeserved equaliser in the European Cup Final at Wembley – May 1978.

39. Shanks encroaching onto the pitch unnoticed amid the dense Amsterdam fog and barking out instructions to a bemused Bobby Graham during the crushing 5-1 defeat against Ajax – December 1966.

40. Graeme Souness bursting into the Bayern Munich dressing room to celebrate after Liverpool had scuppered their plans of a European Cup Final appearance in Paris – April 1981.

41. A sporting Bertie Vogts attending Liverpool's celebratory post-European Cup Final banquet and sharing a drink with Kevin Keegan who earlier that night had given him the run around – May 1977.

42. Teaching a young Alex Ferguson a European Cup lesson with an emphatic 5-0 aggregate defeat of his much-fancied Aberdeen side – November 1980.

43. Bill Shankly kicking infamous referee Ortiz de Mendibil as he came off the pitch after awarding Internazionale three 'dodgy' goals in the European Cup semi-final second leg at the San Siro – May 1965.

44. Emlyn Hughes breaking the UEFA Cup after dropping it while waving it at the celebrating Liverpudlians in Bruges – May 1976.

45. Winning the European Super Cup for a second time by defeating Bayern Munich in Monaco and completing the unprecedented feat of lifting five trophies in one year – August 2001.

46. Souey silencing the partisan Romanian crowd with one of his finest performances in a red shirt as Liverpool booked their place in a fourth European Cup Final – April 1984.

47. Erik Meijer partying with the Liverpool fans in Dortmund's AlterMarket prior to the UEFA Cup Final v Alaves – May 2001.

48. Little Sammy Lee marking the world famous Paul Breitner out of the game in the away leg of the European Cup semi-final v Bayern Munich – April 1981.

49. The entire Liverpool first team squad and backroom staff joining the 30,000 travelling Redmen in a rousing rendition of 'You'll Never Walk Alone' at the Westfalenstadion after the amazing UEFA Cup final triumph over Alaves – May 2001.

50. The impromptu and good humoured 50-a-side snowball fight on the Anfield pitch after the European Cup tie v Cologne was postponed shortly before kick-off – March 1965.

51. Ron Yeats being caught on camera dancing on the tables in a Hungarian nightclub after a creditable goalless draw away to Honved in the Cup Winners Cup.

52. Kevin Keegan meeting Miss Turkey on the flight to Trabzon for a European Cup tie – October 1977.

53. The sound of cannonballs being fired into the Spanish sky everytime the Reds scored in the UEFA Cup win over Real Sociedad – October 1975.

54. Ray Clemence's solo rendition of Liverpool's Cup Final record 'We Can Do It' in the showers of Rome's Olympic Stadium – May 1977.

55. Kenny Dalglish surpassing Denis Law's longstanding British scoring record in Europe against BK Odense in the European Cup – September 1983.

56. Ending Benfica's 46-match unbeaten home record against the backdrop of 70,000 black umbrella's at a rain-soaked Stadium of Light – March 1978.

57. The sight of long queues snaking around the streets of Anfield when tickets for the UEFA Cup semi-final v Barcelona went on sale – April 2001.

58. Dean Saunders scoring four against Kuusysi Lahti on Liverpool's return to Europe after the ban – September 1991.

59. Sammy Lee climbing into the overhead luggage compartment on the plane journey home from Rome – May 1984.

60. The formidable man-to-man marking job by Ian Ross on Franz Beckenbauer in European Fairs Cup quarter-final in Munich – March 1971.

61. The extraordinary nine-goal Anfield thriller v FC Sion – October 1996.

62. Gerry Marsden treating Liverpool and Celtic fans to an emotional live performance of 'You'll Never Walk Alone' at Parkhead prior to the UEFA Cup fourth round tie – February 2003.

63. Steven Gerrard's full Liverpool debut v Celta Vigo. Despite defeat on the night the performance of the Huyton-born youngster gave encouraging grounds for optimism – December 1998

64. And finally, the sound of the 'Campioni Liverpool' chant, long before it was adopted by a certain team not a million miles from Merseyside and changed to Championi!

That's it. Not everyone will agree with our selections and there's probably countless more that we could have included but we'd have been here all day.

What do you think?"


My personal fave in no 47.

[oojason]

^ Nice one MarkP on www.redandwhitekop.net/forum

[kopiteinkc]

I emailed this to my Dad.

He said one of his favourite moments was waiting at Lime Street for the train of Liverpool fans to come back from Rome in 1984.

My brother and I were on the train.

He reckons he could hear us singing "Campioni" all the way in from Runcorn.

As the train approached, he reckoned he'd never seen anything like it as Reds flags waved outside both sides of the train as it came in through the tunnels and headed towards the platforms.

He said the whole station just stopped in awe of fans who had been travelling since Wednesday night (right after the match the Rome ploice escorted us straight to their train station and sent us on our way) and it was now Friday morning. And we singing louder than ever.

Being on the train myself, the scene was nothing like I have ever experienced before. It was like we were carrying the cup back and there were hordes of people to meet us all, including the media.

The noise was deafening as it echoed around the cavernous ceilings of Lime Street and every fan must have had at least two flags as you could barely see in front of you for the mass of color and flags waving.

Despite Liverpool's dominance in the 70s and 80s, not many people thought we could go into Rome's own ground and beat them there (albeit on pen's).

Brucies wobbly legs, Nicol's missed pen, Barney Rubble's winning penalty, petrol boms thrown at us by the Ities, quite a night.

Of course my brother tells me 1977 was even better, bastard!!! ;)

[AndyMead]

I'm no Liverpool fan, but I have trouble understanding how the Alaves 5-4 final failed to make the list. One of the most riveting games I have ever watched.

[usscouse]

Originally posted by oojason
A PROPER Top 50-odd Moments in Europe


So, here goes – Liverpool Football Club's 64 Greatest European moments...

I left my ten on below

6. 'Oh Inter 1-2-3, Go Back To Italy – joyous Kopites serenading the world renowned starts of Internazionale with their rendition of 'Santa Lucia' after the memorable European Cup semi-final first leg victory – May 1965.

15. Gordon Wallace netting Liverpool's first ever goal in European competition after just 180 seconds of the 5-0 win in Reykjavik – August 1964.

18. Beating Cologne on the toss of a coin the European Cup quarter-final play-off – March 1965.

21. Steam rising from the Kop on the night Celtic came to Anfield for the European Cup Winners Cup semi-final, second leg – April 1966.

27. Bill Shankly persuading over 50,000 Liverpudlians that the Reds could overturn a 5-1 first leg deficit in the European Cup against Ajax – December 1966.

29. A limping Geoff Strong heading Liverpool into their first European final as Celtic were beaten 2-0 in the Cup Winners Cup at Anfield – April 1966.

31. Wearing all-red for the first time in the European Cup against Anderlecht – November 1964.

34. Tongue in cheek Kopites cheering for Reykjavik as Liverpool cantered to an 11-1 aggregate victory in our first ever-European tie – September 1964.

39. Shanks encroaching onto the pitch unnoticed amid the dense Amsterdam fog and barking out instructions to a bemused Bobby Graham during the crushing 5-1 defeat against Ajax – December 1966.

40. Graeme Souness bursting into the Bayern Munich dressing room to celebrate after Liverpool had scuppered their plans of a European Cup Final appearance in Paris – April 1981.

43. Bill Shankly kicking infamous referee Ortiz de Mendibil as he came off the pitch after awarding Internazionale three 'dodgy' goals in the European Cup semi-final second leg at the San Siro – May 1965.

44. Emlyn Hughes breaking the UEFA Cup after dropping it while waving it at the celebrating Liverpudlians in Bruges – May 1976.

45. Winning the European Super Cup for a second time by defeating Bayern Munich in Monaco and completing the unprecedented feat of lifting five trophies in one year – August 2001.

46. Souey silencing the partisan Romanian crowd with one of his finest performances in a red shirt as Liverpool booked their place in a fourth European Cup Final – April 1984.

50. The impromptu and good humoured 50-a-side snowball fight on the Anfield pitch after the European Cup tie v Cologne was postponed shortly before kick-off – March 1965.

What do you think?"


My personal fave in no 47.
What do I think?
Brilliant post oojason, complete with goose pimples.
I left my faves up because I was there...before a lot of you 'kids' were born.:) (Old fart!!!)

United couldn't live up to any of this.

[LiverpoolFanatic]

Originally posted by usscouse
What do I think?
United couldn't live up to any of this.

Hear hear!

[usscouse]

Originally posted by LiverpoolFanatic
Hear hear! Yeh, I just can’t imagine a plastic Manc. with the same emotion for the game. More interested in the quality of their “prawn sandwiches”

How is Hawaii these days? Haven’t been since my latent hippie days (Some time in the 70’s) Hiked the Kalalau Trail and I still have the Puka shell necklace I made.

Good times were had…They almost stopped me getting on the flight back to LA…..We’d had a beer or three.
Come to think of it, I wish they had.

[usscouse]

21. Steam rising from the Kop on the night Celtic came to Anfield for the European Cup Winners Cup semi-final, second leg – April 1966.
I remember the steam condensating and coming back down as 'black' rain with the soot from under the roof. I had to take my shirt and Jacket to the cleaners.

43. Bill Shankly kicking infamous referee Ortiz de Mendibil as he came off the pitch after awarding Internazionale three 'dodgy' goals in the European Cup semi-final second leg at the San Siro – May 1965.
There were stories after this about how Mendibil went on an all expense paid holiday on the Riviera!
Nursing his bruised arse, I hope.

If the 442 is going to write articles like the Sun, then it should be treated like the Sun.

[Matt Clark]

Well, having just bought a copy and read the extra that came with it covering the 50 moments, I have to say I was decidedly un-bothered by it all. 442 is a decent enough mag as things go and most of the 50 are interesting little football vignettes.

Of course the naff obsession with all things Mancunian that pervades the entire British sporting media is a bit tiresome but I prefer to enjoy the desperation of those hacks that wax lyrical about entirely unremarkable things just so they can get United into the picture. It's there to be laughed at, at the end of the day. Especially because it is a source of more or less constant embarrassment to real Mancs and their own cherished (but mnore or less totally ignored) perspective on the club everyone and his dog thinks they have a piece of.

My fave in this 50 is the standing ovation Ronaldo was given by some sections of the Old Trafford crowd last May. It speaks absolute volumes that this is considered even worthy of comment, let alone inclusion in a "Top 50 European moments" list. Let's all share a private chuckle that something so utterly normal at Anfield left commentators nigh-on dumbstruck when witnessed at the Skip. As is more or less always the case, the fawning attention paid to United by the media does little more than illustrate just what a vapid construct the "biggest club in the world" has become in their hands.

I'll trade a few mentions in a footie mag's giveaway special for the real - the actual - credibility, humility and value retained by our club and everyone lucky enough to be a part of it any day of the week.

And just by the by, there is an interesting article on our young French gems in there too. Plus, for those salivating Sam's Army types, a long article on Freddy Adu.

[Gabbage]

Originally posted by Matt Clark
And just by the by, there is an interesting article on our young French gems in there too.

Wow. How long? :)

[LiverpoolFanatic]

Well that will put me out $6 when it finally makes it way over both ponds.

[Matt Clark]

Originally posted by Gabbage
Wow. How long? :)

Two pages.

[russ]

Right ,another trip to Borders then....

Thanks Matt and well said.

[Matt Clark]

The gist of it has been posted as an article on the official site, by the way.