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ChrisE
25 Apr 2004, 07:33 PM
Another; players in parentheses were subs:


2002
Gray
Mapp
Behncke
Davis
Martino
Leonard
Joseph
Twellman
Leitch
(Selolwane)
(Moreno)
(Gbandi)
(Capano)
(Arnaud)

2003
Ralph
Jaqua
Pause
Alecko
Carroll
Thomas
Walsh
Borchers
Noonan
Clark
Gaven
(Testo)
(Torres)
(Walker)

2004
Marshall
Grabavoy
Ngwenya
Dempsey
Parke
(Gros)
(Adu)
(Taylor)
(Sullivan)

numerista
16 Jun 2004, 11:00 AM
Here's how minutes have been distributed by round (I readjusted 2002's rounds into groups of 10):


Round 2000 2001 2002 2003 Total
1 3.92 4.34 2.82 3.96 3.76
2 2.45 2.32 1.05 1.83 1.91
3 1.51 1.07 1.20 0.47 1.06
4 0.97 0.44 0.08 0.52 0.50
5 0.53 0.02 0.38 0.21 0.29
6 0.05 0.00 0.52 0.07 0.16
Total 9.42 8.18 6.05 7.06 7.68


If we take expect them to play 7.5% of minutes, using those distributions, that means we're looking at about 10903 minutes for 1st rounders, 5542 for 2nds, 3075 for 3rds, 1452 for 4ths, 834 for 5ths, and 466 for 6ths.


Last season, my opinion was that Nat Borchers was an exception, a strong player with an excellent track record who had simply been overlooked. This year, it's getting harder to deny that draft depth has improved. It's remarkable how many late-round picks have earned appearances, and with more qualifiers up ahead, their minutes may increase further.

The flipside is that minutes are way down for players picked in rounds 2 and 3.

2004 Minutes by round (so far)
1 -- 3325 Adu 541, Marshall 810, Ngwenya 536, Taylor 148, Cochrane 360, Nunez 5, Dempsey 907, Buete 18
2 -- 500 Griffin 155, Wingert 43, Grabavoy 302
3 -- 105 Wells 90, Ara 15
4 -- 706 Sutton 5, Gros 699, Clanton 2
5 -- 222 Vercollone 1, Sullivan 212, Dombrowski 9
6 -- 1130 Brilliant 308, Aloisi 90, Dorman 123, Parke 609
Und - Cila 13, Perkins 360

kenntomasch
16 Jun 2004, 11:56 AM
I did a thing for the Emerald City Gazette before the 2003 draft grading each team on their drafting over time, and picking the steals and busts from each year, but I only based it on games, not minutes (general audience - didn't want to get too technical). I have it somewhere, if anyone thinks it might add to the discussion in any way.

ChrisE
16 Jun 2004, 01:28 PM
Last season, my opinion was that Nat Borchers was an exception, a strong player with an excellent track record who had simply been overlooked. This year, it's getting harder to deny that draft depth has improved. It's remarkable how many late-round picks have earned appearances, and with more qualifiers up ahead, their minutes may increase further.

I'm tempted to make the argument that this is a product of developmental rosters, but I think it's impossible to deny the fact that the draft's depth is significantly improved.



The flipside is that minutes are way down for players picked in rounds 2 and 3.

2004 Minutes by round (so far)
1 -- 3325 Adu 541, Marshall 810, Ngwenya 536, Taylor 148, Cochrane 360, Nunez 5, Dempsey 907, Buete 18
2 -- 500 Griffin 155, Wingert 43, Grabavoy 302
3 -- 105 Wells 90, Ara 15
4 -- 706 Sutton 5, Gros 699, Clanton 2
5 -- 222 Vercollone 1, Sullivan 212, Dombrowski 9
6 -- 1130 Brilliant 308, Aloisi 90, Dorman 123, Parke 609
Und - Cila 13, Perkins 360

I'm not sure there's a whole lot to be said about this - the second and third rounds are obviously down, but I think this is just a little bad luck combined with the fact that some guys haven't managed to break into their lineups yet - at the midpoint last year, Damani Ralph was the only 2nd rounder who was a consistent starter. These mid-round picks may be being drafted more for potential than for immediate ability to produce, while the more mature guys may be sliding. I don't think we've seen enough to make conclusions about these classes.

ChrisE
16 Jun 2004, 01:36 PM
I did a thing for the Emerald City Gazette before the 2003 draft grading each team on their drafting over time, and picking the steals and busts from each year, but I only based it on games, not minutes (general audience - didn't want to get too technical). I have it somewhere, if anyone thinks it might add to the discussion in any way.

I would definitely like to see that, Kenn - what I think would be a good companion to that, though, would be if we did a regression so that we could estimate the 'expected minutes' that a team should have gotten from draft picks x, y, and z.

I'm not exactly sure what to include, though - draft position and year, presumably, but what about position, or age-when-drafted, etc. And what numbers to look at? Rookie minutes, career minutes, goals, etc.? So if you or anyone else has ideas...

(sorry to hijack your suggestion)

kenntomasch
16 Jun 2004, 03:06 PM
You lost me at "regression." :)

Actually, as it turns out, I already had the thing up and didn't remember it (http://www.kenn.com/work/writing/mls_draft.html). It's a year and a half old, so some of the conclusions may have changed since then. But do with it what you will.

numerista
17 Jun 2004, 11:09 AM
I'm not sure there's a whole lot to be said about this - the second and third rounds are obviously down, but I think this is just a little bad luck combined with the fact that some guys haven't managed to break into their lineups yet

But as you noted elsewhere, quite a few of these guys didn't even end up on a roster. I don't think too many were drafted for long-run potential, either, as many were (IIRC) on the older side.

On a somewhat related note, it seems that this year there's been pretty good interest from European clubs, which mostly affected this year's 2nd and 3rd rounders. Here's a list of recent draftees lost who opted out of going straight into MLS in order to play abroad.

[Quite probably, there are several errors and omissions; corrections are appreciated.]
2001
#22 Russell (LA) to Sognal, Norwegian top div
#36 Lukin (Color.) to German 3rd Div (might've been cut before heading out)
#40 Gibbs (LA) to St. Pauli, German 1st
#45 Rahim (LA) to West Ham, Eng. Prem.

2002
#14 Joseph (NE) to German 3rd Div (for one year)
#20 Matteo (Colum.) to Italian Serie C1 (briefly, IIRC)
#25 Glinton (LA) to England (briefly, never signed)
#36 Selolwane (Chi.) to top division in Denmark

2003
#35 Friend (Chi) to somewhere in Scandinavia

2004
#15 Gregorio (Color.) to Europe, not yet signed
#19 Pickens (Chi.) to Ireland(?)
#23 White (NE) to Serbia (briefly, then France?)
#26 Occean (NY) to Odd Grnland., top div in Norway (and Canada's national team)
#46 David (NY) to Chaves, Portuguese 2nd (might've been cut before heading out)

ChrisE
17 Jun 2004, 06:34 PM
But as you noted elsewhere, quite a few of these guys didn't even end up on a roster.

Well, actually, that's what I was referring to - I just did it really awkwardly.


I don't think too many were drafted for long-run potential, either, as many were (IIRC) on the older side.


Yeah, probably, I was basing that pretty much entirely on the P-40's selected in the 2nd round, but they're not really significant.


You lost me at "regression."

I expected as much. :) I remember reading this a while ago, and I think it raises an interesting question for evaluating drafts - what's more important, games (or minutes) played for the team that drafted them, or games played overall? The draft summaries are really cool.

kenntomasch
17 Jun 2004, 08:02 PM
I think games played overall gives you some idea as to whether or not the guy can play at this level in a 10 (or 12) team league. The games played for the team that drafted them can be one way of showing how well teams identify guys who can play at that level, and how well they fit into that team's system.

I'd have to do the study again before the 2005 draft, and see what changes. Maybe see who has played the most games in MLS, but not for the team that originally drafted him.

Or, maybe the whole thing is no good at all, I don't know. But some of the numbers were kind of interesting, I thought.

swedcrip34
21 Jun 2004, 07:18 PM
But as you noted elsewhere, quite a few of these guys didn't even end up on a roster. I don't think too many were drafted for long-run potential, either, as many were (IIRC) on the older side.

On a somewhat related note, it seems that this year there's been pretty good interest from European clubs, which mostly affected this year's 2nd and 3rd rounders. Here's a list of recent draftees lost who opted out of going straight into MLS in order to play abroad.

[Quite probably, there are several errors and omissions; corrections are appreciated.]
2001
#22 Russell (LA) to Sognal, Norwegian top div
#36 Lukin (Color.) to German 3rd Div (might've been cut before heading out)
#40 Gibbs (LA) to St. Pauli, German 1st
#45 Rahim (LA) to West Ham, Eng. Prem.

2002
#14 Joseph (NE) to German 3rd Div (for one year)
#20 Matteo (Colum.) to Italian Serie C1 (briefly, IIRC)
#25 Glinton (LA) to England (briefly, never signed)
#36 Selolwane (Chi.) to top division in Denmark

2003
#35 Friend (Chi) to somewhere in Scandinavia

2004
#15 Gregorio (Color.) to Europe, not yet signed
#19 Pickens (Chi.) to Ireland(?)
#23 White (NE) to Serbia (briefly, then France?)
#26 Occean (NY) to Odd Grnland., top div in Norway (and Canada's national team)
#46 David (NY) to Chaves, Portuguese 2nd (might've been cut before heading out)

I think Pickens is on the CHI roster as a developmental player and is sitting on some ALeague teams bench.

ChrisE
22 Jun 2004, 08:34 AM
I think Pickens is on the CHI roster as a developmental player and is sitting on some ALeague teams bench.

(Virginia Beach)

numerista
22 Jun 2004, 08:35 AM
Wouldn't you know it? As soon as I go on record bashing the 2nd- and 3rd-rounders, they have by far their busiest week of the year.

Three debuts:
Stammler for the MetroStars, Stephenson for the Wizards, Cann for the Rapids

Other appearances:
Grabavoy, Wingert, Ara, and Wells

Also, fourth-rounder Denny Clanton went 90 in his first game for the Fire.

Thx S Wed, for the clarification on Pickens.

numerista
26 Jun 2004, 02:58 AM
I think games played overall gives you some idea as to whether or not the guy can play at this level.

I agree with your point, and I'm not sure I can offer a better solution. At the same time, I really dislike using games played as a metric for draft success. My reasons:
1. It rewards teams for having holes in their line-up, where draftees slot straight in.
2. It rewards teams that have lots of draft picks.
3. (most important) The key to the draft isn't getting adequate players ... it's getting difference-makers. In looking for difference-makers, a team may take some gambles that lead it to have lower games played totals but higher productivity. We shouldn't punish those gambles.

The Matt Behnckes and Chris Roners of the world make quite a few appearances, but I'd suggest that their real value isn't far above zero. They're adequate, but adequate players can be found elsewhere. By contrast, guys like Shalrie Joseph and Damani Ralph give their respective teams a huge advantage. Arguably, the key to MLS success is locating players like them -- standouts who fit easily under the salary cap.

kenntomasch
26 Jun 2004, 03:18 AM
Oh, I agree there's a big difference between a guy who just gets in and takes up space and a guy who makes a difference. We don't have one all-encompassing metric like Approximate Value or something like that. But I think it's safe to assume that if a guy plays 100 games for you or something, he's (hopefully) been productive. At the lower levels of the scale, yeah, whether a guy was in for 10 games for 20 may not make a huge difference.

It was just a down-and-dirty way to separate teams that had gotten a lot of use out of the guys they drafted from teams that hadn't.

swedcrip34
03 Jul 2004, 12:52 PM
Nearly finished with my first run through creating an organized, reference listing of all-time MLS transactions. I've created a table explaining the 1996 drafts and plan to keep going for every year. There are about 10 swaps of picks that I currently have unexplained though by guessing at about 5 seemingly unannounced trades I have a reasonable explanation for each. I'll appreciate help with those when I get to those years.

This'll probably look like crap since I'm not sure how to insert it here but it looks pretty good in Excel. I hope it's not too long to be a problem posting here. I can email Excel files to anyone with webspace.

I'll break into parts since it was rejected the first time.

swedcrip34
03 Jul 2004, 12:53 PM
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Feb 6, 1996 - Inaugural Rounds 1-8; Feb 7, 1996 - Inaugural Rounds 9-16; Mar 4, 1996 College Rounds 1-3, Supplemental Rounds 1-3 http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/history/archive.jsp?year=1996&content=superdraft ####
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R1P01Y96 becomes (McKeon, Matt) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade KC Feb. 6: Garth Lagerwey and first-round college pick (first overall) traded to Kansas City Wiz for Jeff Causey DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Kansas City traded Jeff Causey to Washington for its%0Dfirst-round pick in the College Draft (No. 1) and Garth Lagerway.% ####
Causey, Jeff I5P06Y96 2/6/96 DC SNR acquired trade KC Feb. 6: Garth Lagerwey and first-round college pick (first overall) traded to Kansas City Wiz for Jeff Causey DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Kansas City traded Jeff Causey to Washington for its%0Dfirst-round pick in the College Draft (No. 1) and Garth Lagerway.% ####
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S2P02Y96 becomes (Hesse, Ken) 2/6/96 MET pick released trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
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Dayak, Troy I2P09Y96 2/24/96 SJ SNR acquired trade MET Feb. 24, 1996: The Clash completes the first trade in MLS history, getting Troy Dayak from the MetroStars in exchange for Rhett Harty and the Clash's first-round selection in the MLS College Draft. SJ_TS http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/sje/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions ####
Harty, Rhett I4P08Y96 2/24/96 SJ SNR released trade MET Feb. 24, 1996: The Clash completes the first trade in MLS history, getting Troy Dayak from the MetroStars in exchange for Rhett Harty and the Clash's first-round selection in the MLS College Draft. SJ_TS http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/sje/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions ####
R1PSJY96toMET becomes R1P03Y96 (Pollard, Brandon) 2/24/96 SJ pick released trade MET Feb. 24, 1996: The Clash completes the first trade in MLS history, getting Troy Dayak from the MetroStars in exchange for Rhett Harty and the Clash's first-round selection in the MLS College Draft. SJ_TS http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/sje/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions ####
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S1P08Y96 becomes (Gori, Mario) 3/4/96 MET pick acquired trade DAL New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the College Draft acquired%0Dfrom San Jose (No. 3) to Dallas for its first-round pick in the%0DSupplemental Draft (No. 8). s-a http://www.socceramerica.com/article.asp?Art_ID=13447 ####
R1PSJY96toMET becomes R1P03Y96 (Pollard, Brandon) 3/4/96 MET pick released trade DAL New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the College Draft acquired%0Dfrom San Jose (No. 3) to Dallas for its first-round pick in the%0DSupplemental Draft (No. 8). s-a http://www.socceramerica.com/article.asp?Art_ID=13447 ####
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Olson, Matt (Matthew) I13P10Y96 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Matt Olson, second-round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and second round pick in college draft (11th overall) traded to MetroStars for first-round pick in supplemental draft (eighth overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the Supplemental%0DDraft acquired from Dallas (No. 8) to Washington for its second-round%0Dpick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 11), its second-round pick in the College%0DDraft (No. 11) and Matt Olson ####
S2P02Y96 becomes (Hesse, Ken) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Matt Olson, second-round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and second round pick in college draft (11th overall) traded to MetroStars for first-round pick in supplemental draft (eighth overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the Supplemental%0DDraft acquired from Dallas (No. 8) to Washington for its second-round%0Dpick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 11), its second-round pick in the College%0DDraft (No. 11) and Matt Olson ####
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S3P01Y96 becomes (Tulio) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P02Y96 becomes (Hesse, Ken) 2/6/96 DC pick acquired trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
R1P02Y96 becoems (Pope, Eddie) 2/6/96 DC pick acquired trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
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Olson, Matt (Matthew) I13P10Y96 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Matt Olson, second-round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and second round pick in college draft (11th overall) traded to MetroStars for first-round pick in supplemental draft (eighth overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the Supplemental%0DDraft acquired from Dallas (No. 8) to Washington for its second-round%0Dpick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 11), its second-round pick in the College%0DDraft (No. 11) and Matt Olson ####
S2P02Y96 becomes (Hesse, Ken) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Matt Olson, second-round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and second round pick in college draft (11th overall) traded to MetroStars for first-round pick in supplemental draft (eighth overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the Supplemental%0DDraft acquired from Dallas (No. 8) to Washington for its second-round%0Dpick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 11), its second-round pick in the College%0DDraft (No. 11) and Matt Olson ####
R2P01Y96 becomes (Lamphear, Scott) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Matt Olson, second-round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and second round pick in college draft (11th overall) traded to MetroStars for first-round pick in supplemental draft (eighth overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the Supplemental%0DDraft acquired from Dallas (No. 8) to Washington for its second-round%0Dpick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 11), its second-round pick in the College%0DDraft (No. 11) and Matt Olson ####
S1P08Y96 becomes (Gori, Mario) 2/6/96 MET pick released trade DC Feb. 6: Matt Olson, second-round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and second round pick in college draft (11th overall) traded to MetroStars for first-round pick in supplemental draft (eighth overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the Supplemental%0DDraft acquired from Dallas (No. 8) to Washington for its second-round%0Dpick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 11), its second-round pick in the College%0DDraft (No. 11) and Matt Olson ####
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swedcrip34
03 Jul 2004, 12:57 PM
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Round 2: (picks 1-4 unnatural; 5-10 natural) ####
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Juninho S2P01Y96 MET (f DC) ####
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S1P01Y96 becomes (Caricola, Nicola) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P01Y96 becomes (Juninho) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S3P01Y96 becomes (Tulio) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P02Y96 becomes (Hesse, Ken) 2/6/96 DC pick acquired trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
R1P02Y96 becoems (Pope, Eddie) 2/6/96 DC pick acquired trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
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Hesse, Ken S2P02Y96 MET (f MET t DC) ####
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S1P01Y96 becomes (Caricola, Nicola) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P01Y96 becomes (Juninho) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S3P01Y96 becomes (Tulio) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P02Y96 becomes (Hesse, Ken) 2/6/96 MET pick released trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
R1P02Y96 becoems (Pope, Eddie) 2/6/96 MET pick released trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
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Olson, Matt (Matthew) I13P10Y96 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Matt Olson, second-round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and second round pick in college draft (11th overall) traded to MetroStars for first-round pick in supplemental draft (eighth overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the Supplemental%0DDraft acquired from Dallas (No. 8) to Washington for its second-round%0Dpick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 11), its second-round pick in the College%0DDraft (No. 11) and Matt Olson ####
S2P02Y96 becomes (Hesse, Ken) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Matt Olson, second-round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and second round pick in college draft (11th overall) traded to MetroStars for first-round pick in supplemental draft (eighth overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the Supplemental%0DDraft acquired from Dallas (No. 8) to Washington for its second-round%0Dpick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 11), its second-round pick in the College%0DDraft (No. 11) and Matt Olson ####
R2P01Y96 becomes (Lamphear, Scott) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Matt Olson, second-round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and second round pick in college draft (11th overall) traded to MetroStars for first-round pick in supplemental draft (eighth overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the Supplemental%0DDraft acquired from Dallas (No. 8) to Washington for its second-round%0Dpick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 11), its second-round pick in the College%0DDraft (No. 11) and Matt Olson ####
S1P08Y96 becomes (Gori, Mario) 2/6/96 DC pick acquired trade MET Feb. 6: Matt Olson, second-round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and second round pick in college draft (11th overall) traded to MetroStars for first-round pick in supplemental draft (eighth overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - New York/New Jersey traded its first-round pick in the Supplemental%0DDraft acquired from Dallas (No. 8) to Washington for its second-round%0Dpick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 11), its second-round pick in the College%0DDraft (No. 11) and Matt Olson ####
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Robles, Michael S2P03Y96 CLB (f SJ) ####
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Corrales, Ramiro I9P01Y96 3/4/96 SJ SNR acquired trade CLB March 4, 1996: Acquired D Ramiro Corrales from Columbus Crew in exchange for second-round selection in MLS supplemental draft. Acquired M Roberto Gonzales and D James Woolridge in supplemental draft. Acquired F Derick Brownell and M Eddie Lewis in MLS College Draft. SJ_TS http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/sje/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions ####
S2PSJY96toCLB becomes S2P03Y96 (Robles, Michael) 3/4/96 SJ pick released trade CLB March 4, 1996: Acquired D Ramiro Corrales from Columbus Crew in exchange for second-round selection in MLS supplemental draft. Acquired M Roberto Gonzales and D James Woolridge in supplemental draft. Acquired F Derick Brownell and M Eddie Lewis in MLS College Draft. SJ_TS http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/sje/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions ####
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Vagner S2P04Y96 DAL (f TB) ####
S2P04Y96 becomes (Vagner) 3/4/1996~ TB pick released trade DAL Dallas traded its second-rond pick in the College Draft (No. 18) to%0DTampa Bay for its second-round pick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 14) s-a http://www.socceramerica.com/article.asp?Art_ID=13447 ####
R2P08Y96 becomes (Ralston, Steve) 3/4/1996~ TB pick acquired trade DAL Dallas traded its second-rond pick in the College Draft (No. 18) to%0DTampa Bay for its second-round pick in the Supplemental Draft (No. 14) s-a http://www.socceramerica.com/article.asp?Art_ID=13447 ####
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Round 3: (picks 1unnatural; 2-10 natural) ####
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Tulio S3P01Y96 MET (f DC) ####
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S1P01Y96 becomes (Caricola, Nicola) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P01Y96 becomes (Juninho) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S3P01Y96 becomes (Tulio) 2/6/96 DC pick released trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P02Y96 becomes (Hesse, Ken) 2/6/96 DC pick acquired trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
R1P02Y96 becoems (Pope, Eddie) 2/6/96 DC pick acquired trade MET Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
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1996 Inaugural MLS Draft ####
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Note: s-a breaks up the trade listed on dcunited.com into two smaller trades ####
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S1P01Y96 becomes (Caricola, Nicola) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P01Y96 becomes (Juninho) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S3P01Y96 becomes (Tulio) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P02Y96 becomes (Hesse, Ken) 2/6/96 MET pick released trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
R1P02Y96 becoems (Pope, Eddie) 2/6/96 MET pick released trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
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becomes: ####
S1P01Y96 becomes (Caricola, Nicola) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P01Y96 becomes (Juninho) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
R1P02Y96 becoems (Pope, Eddie) 2/6/96 MET pick released trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
and: ####
S3P01Y96 becomes (Tulio) 2/6/96 MET pick acquired trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
S2P02Y96 becomes (Hesse, Ken) 2/6/96 MET pick released trade DC Feb. 6: Three picks in supplemental draft (1st, 11th and 21st overall) traded to MetroStars for second round pick in supplemental draft (12th overall) and first-round pick in college draft (second overall) DC_TS http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/load.jsp?section=about&content=transactions EXP - Washington traded its first-round (No. 1) and third-round picks (No.%0D21) in the Supplemental Draft to New York/New Jersey for its first-round%0Dpick in the College Draft (No. 2). ####
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Inaugural: ####
Los Angeles, Jorge Salcedo, m, UCLA. ####
New England, Bojan Vukovic, f, Franklin Pierce. ####
Kansas City, Sean Bowers, d, Quincy. ####
San Jose, Tim Martin, d, Fresno State. ####
Washington D.C., Erik Imler, d, Virginia. ####
Kansas City, Eric Eichmann, f, Clemson. ####
Tampa Bay, Ivan McKinley, m, Boca Raton. ####
San Jose, Rhett Harty, m, Stanford. ####
New York-New Jersey, Jeff Zaun, d, Rutgers. ####
Washington D.C., Richie Williams, m, Virginia. ####
San Jose, Paul Holocher, m, Santa Clara. ####
Dallas, Mark Dodd, gk, Duke. ####
New York-New Jersey, Ted Gillen, m, Penn State. ####
Los Angeles, Harut Karapetyan, f, none. ####
Dallas, Richard Farrer, f, New Mexico. ####
Dallas, Jimmy Glenn, f, Clemson. ####
College: ####
Kansas City, Gutierrez, Diego, M, Rockhurst ####
Los Angeles, Vanney, Gregg, M, UCLA ####
Tampa Bay, Ralston, Steve, M, FIU ####
New England, Dos Santos, Paulo , M, Rhode Island ####
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College: ####
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Supplemental: (links deferred, several of these players missed the combine) ####
Harrington, Pat S1P05Y96 ***Reported signed by10/17/1995, then some confusion about this being a false report. ####
Vaudreuil, David S2P07Y96 by10/17/1995~ ####
Ashton, Chad S2P08Y96 by10/17/1995~ ####
Sharpe, Richard S2P09Y96 by10/17/1995~ ####
Wright, Paul S3P05Y96 12/12/1995~ ####
Ibsen, Zak S3P06Y96 by10/17/1995~ ####
Inaugural: ####
DEFERRED (***dates&links found for ~1/2 so far) ####
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swedcrip34
03 Jul 2004, 12:57 PM
So it does look like crap. Any help inserting tables would be much appreciated.

swedcrip34
03 Jul 2004, 01:02 PM
I can try attachments or code if I knew how/had rights. Thanks.

numerista
03 Jul 2004, 01:04 PM
Nearly finished with my first run through creating an organized, reference listing of all-time MLS transactions. I've created a table explaining the 1996 drafts and plan to keep going for every year. There are about 10 swaps of picks that I currently have unexplained though by guessing at about 5 seemingly unannounced trades I have a reasonable explanation for each. I'll appreciate help with those when I get to those years.

This'll probably look like crap since I'm not sure how to insert it here but it looks pretty good in Excel. I hope it's not too long to be a problem posting here. I can email Excel files to anyone with webspace.

I'll break into parts since it was rejected the first time.

Wow ... sounds intriguing. Instead of posting it here, maybe you could put it up on Kenn's web space? (If you follow that route, it'd be nice to post two copies of each file, one in .xl* format and the other in .csv format, for use outside of Excel.)

... and since I'm posting on the SuperDraft thread, I'll note that Doug Warren -- drafted #14 in 2003 -- was recently cut from DC. Remarkably, all of the first- and second-rounders from that draft had been in the league until then. Warren was also the only goalkeeper selected in those two rounds. When you get your data online, I'll be interested to see whether we can document a pattern of over-pricing top young goalkeepers.