Hugh Dallas sends off player for u know what

[VFish]

Care to elaborate? Personally, I thought he did an admirable job.

[The Ghost of BillR4]

Originally posted by VFish
Care to elaborate? Personally, I thought he did an admirable job.

Too theatrical by far. Ridiculous with the yellows. That bit of conversation and strutting about with the assistant referees was bad opera.

He is too busy trying to prove he is in charge. He is insecure. He is shite. I pity his wife.

[Chowderhead]

Originally posted by VFish
Care to elaborate? Personally, I thought he did an admirable job.

I'll elaborate. He was being an egotistical putz and cruising for a João Pinto-style castigation from our boys.

[The Ghost of BillR4]

Originally posted by Chowderhead


He was being an egotistical putz . . .

You win, having summed it up in fewer words than I.

[VFish]

LOL!

You’re critiquing him because he’s too theatrical? How would you rate Collina? He takes theatrics to a another level. :)

[Chowderhead]

Originally posted by VFish
LOL!

You’re critiquing him because he’s too theatrical? How would you rate Collina? He takes theatrics to a another level. :)

Collina por lo menos pulls his crap both ways. The little sweaty jock tosser Dallas....

[VFish]

Originally posted by Chowderhead


Collina por lo menos pulls his crap both ways. The little sweaty jock tosser Dallas.... Perhaps… but I think you read too much into it.

Cheers! =|;-)>

[M]

Originally posted by The Ghost of BillR4

He is too busy trying to prove he is in charge. He is insecure. He is shite. I pity his wife.

And you are a sore loser.

[The Ghost of BillR4]

Originally posted by M


And you are a sore loser.

Why? I didn't complain about the loss or even the controversial noncall on the hand ball. We had our chances to win and didn't convert.

All of that has nothing to do with the fact that Hugh Dallas is an officious little prick. He shouldn't be refereeing. He should be working behind a window at the Department of Motor Vehicles in some state like New Jersey or New York where being an officious little prick is part of the job. I really don't care that much since fans and players on the east side of the Atlantic have to deal with that "Little Napoleon" on a regular basis.

[VFish]

Ghost… USA v Germany obviously wasn’t you first introduction to Hugh Dallas. Care to share other experieces? What’s got you dander up? All this anger can't be based on this one match. What's up?

[The Ghost of BillR4]

Originally posted by VFish
Ghost… USA v Germany obviously wasn’t you first introduction to Hugh Dallas. Care to share other experieces? What’s got you dander up? All this anger can't be based on this one match. What's up?

Why not? I watched a lot of reffing in the World Cup . . . good, bad and ugly. He was both pedantic and absurd in the USA/Germany match -- I've never seen anything quite like it. Anytime a ref feels obliged to steal the show as he did, it is generally a sign that he is not up to the task. The ref you can't talk about was probably the best. Hugh Dallas seems to want to walk off the pitch as the focus of discussion.

I suppose that you are correct in your surmise in some fashion. Both before and since the WC I've read a number of commentators that have shared similar feelings about the man's performances. Most to the effect that his silly strutting as evidenced in the USA-Germany match was par for his course.

What are you, his nephew? His wife?

[M]

Originally posted by The Ghost of BillR4


Why? I didn't complain about the loss or even the controversial noncall on the hand ball. We had our chances to win and didn't convert.

All of that has nothing to do with the fact that Hugh Dallas is an officious little prick. He shouldn't be refereeing. He should be working behind a window at the Department of Motor Vehicles in some state like New Jersey or New York where being an officious little prick is part of the job. I really don't care that much since fans and players on the east side of the Atlantic have to deal with that "Little Napoleon" on a regular basis.

You ludicrous bitterness belies your denial.

[Thomas Flannigan]

If he did an admirable job why did Beckenbauer say he blew the game? Why did Pele and Platini voice similar concerns? Why did FIFA apologize for the refs a day or two after this disgraceful game?
Vfish and other FIFA fans don't address the diving or the suspensions do they? How about cutting injury time short? OK ignore it. Admirably.

[The Ghost of BillR4]

Originally posted by M


You ludicrous bitterness belies your denial.

Hardly, you should read me when I really believe a ref screwed us over. Dallas is simply a martinet.

[Thomas Flannigan]

No wonder we get screwed by FIFA when so many American fans alibi for the refs we get. It is the same old story. We get a guy like Rodolfo Sibrian or Uli Schmeir in an important game. Someone points out the obvious; that all the calls went against the U.S. and even an AYSO 9 year old game would not have such bad reffing.
The person who dares to criticize FIFA's refs is denounced with references to Oliver Stone and conspiracies. The moderators start circling. Insults fly. Claptrap about the Loch Ness Monster and UFOs gets thrown into the pot. The sacred cow must be protected.
On Big Soccer, you can't even discuss the Yallop book "How They Stole the Game", perhaps the best book on systemic corruption in FIFA. When I started a discussion on it it was moved to the Collector's BB. which gets a post ever Ice Age or so. Blatter evidently got the book banned in Switzerland and on Amazon.com. It was avaiable for a brief period and vanished, air-brushed out of existence. So much for free speech.
With this sort of support from American "fans" FIFA has adequate cover to keep screwing us. It is not just CONCACAF. CONCACAF did not pick the refs in the World Cup.
Just my opinions.

[MarioKempes]

Where is Art Bell when you need him?
Can we get an interview here?

[VFish]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
If he did an admirable job why did Beckenbauer say he blew the game? Why did Pele and Platini voice similar concerns? Why did FIFA apologize for the refs a day or two after this disgraceful game?
Vfish and other FIFA fans don't address the diving or the suspensions do they? How about cutting injury time short? OK ignore it. Admirably. Uh… other than stoppage time, I did address those issues. Please go back a page. I’m not sure what your beef with extra time is… I assume you think we were robbed of a minute or two.

As for Beckenbaur, he acknowledged that a PK should have been awarded and the Germans were gracious victors, admitting they were a bit lucky to have won. How this translates into proof that the game was fixed is beyond me.

Perhaps we should move on. This thread is old news and has grown from a simple gripe session into the realm of paranoia.

[superdave]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
If he did an admirable job why did Beckenbauer say he blew the game?
He didn't say that, you pathological liar.

Again, not a personal attack, I have the truth defense.

BTW, Thomas, you've never addressed my "40 feet away" response.

[Chowderhead]

Originally posted by VFish

Perhaps we should move on. This thread is old news and has grown from a simple gripe session into the realm of paranoia.

One guy is paranoid. Another is bitter. So what? That's part of it, isn't it?

We bashed Mexico for a month. We've grown a bit bored and hungry for a beef so now we're having another go at Dallas.

What's the big deal?

[flanoverseas]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
If he did an admirable job why did Beckenbauer say he blew the game? Why did Pele and Platini voice similar concerns? Why did FIFA apologize for the refs a day or two after this disgraceful game?
Vfish and other FIFA fans don't address the diving or the suspensions do they? How about cutting injury time short? OK ignore it. Admirably. Thomas, the problem that people have with your conspiracy theory, is that you go directly to it without taking into consideration other factors. In Dallas' case, were he on the take, don't you think he would've tried to hide it a little bit? I mean the guy was clearly treating our players differently than the Germans. Isn't it possible that some of these refs just don't like the fact that the U.S. is becoming a team to be reckoned with and their feelings get in the way of how they call the game, without there being a conspiracy. There is a significant number of British who believe that Yanks shouldn't even be playing 'football'.

You mentioned the Portugal game, and I remember PORTUGAL receiving a yellow in the first 20 minutes for simulation. That doesn't sound like a ref biased against the U.S.

The Korea game was horrible, but any home field team in soccer gets an enormous advantage - ask Man ure. And that is true in almost every sport.

The Mexico game was a disgrace, but since when haven't our games against them been that way.



Until there are some changes to the refereeing system as a whole, which would include enforcing the rules that are already there, calls are going to continue to be screwed up.

I don't deny that there is some corruption in FIFA, but I don't necessarily buy the fact that games were thrown.

Mark