Hugh Dallas sends off player for u know what

[Thomas Flannigan]

A brfief excerpt from the Manchester Guardian of June 24, 2002.

In Gwangju on Saturday Spain also had two goals ruled out, both of which were legitimate, and afterwards some of those present in the stadium - Koreans included - expressed serious concern that what had occurred went beyond pure incompetence by the match officials. Yesterday the Spanish football association announced it was making an official protest over the standard of refereeing by the Egyptian Gamal Ghandour and his Ugandan and Trinidadian assistants.

"I don't think the referees were correct; they made mistakes and if anyone had won it should have been Spain," said the association's president Angel Maria Villar, a close ally of the Fifa president Sepp Blatter. "Our official complaint will say Spain were prejudiced by the referee. The damage has been done but we have to stop things like this happening."

It is not just the Spanish who suspect this World Cup is rigged in favour of its co-hosts. Fifa also received 400,000 irate emails from Italian fans following their controversial second-round defeat by South Korea. For such allegations even to be on the agenda is a damaging blow to this or any World Cup.

[John Galt]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
It was a clean tackle, similar to the one Sanneh made against germany. FIFA banned stadium replays after this incident.

Proof, please. Any thing other than the conclusion you drew from being there? A news article, a FIFA ruling, some corroborative evidence that would (a) establish the two alleged facts and (b) link them together. PLEASE, anything more than just your opinions?

[monster]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
Donavan yells a lot in the MLS but he did not do it at the Cup.
Please! You make the Donavan tackle sound like a deliberate attempt to injure. It was a clean tackle, similar to the one Sanneh made against germany. FIFA banned stadium replays after this incident.
I have NEVER seen another soccer game where a team failed to get a single corner kick. There were at least 2 obvious corner kicks that King Uli turned into goal kicks, to the outrage of the American fans at the game.
Keep defending these practices and we will continue to get lousy refs.
My opinions.

Listen to Ray Davies. He certainly is a wise man.

Do you have proof they banned stadium replays after an incident involving the US? Actually, can someone else provide proof since I have embarassed Thomas enough times by countering his erroneous statements with facts that he refuses to acknowledge me.

You still haven't owned up that you totally mischaracterized the World Soccer piece in addition to lying that there was only a picture of the US game, Tommy.

[VFish]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
One poster said that Spain, Portugal and Italy are laughingstocks because thier citizens have accused FIFA of rigging matches. World Soccer Magazine used this term, while contantly referring to "questionable" referees and also running an article, with a perfect view of the handball, on the bad referees.
I don't think most soccer fans are laughing at Spain, Italy and Portugal, but establishment press must sing the songs of the old time religion for their own selfish reaons.
Just my opinions
Your right, most fans sympathize with the plight of Spain and Italy. But that sympathy quickly turns to ridicule when the Italians start talking about lawsuits and match fixing. I’d suggest the Italians question their tactics and blame Viera’s inexplicable misses before pointing fingers at the ref.

JMHO.

[Thomas Flannigan]

I do not respond to Monster posts because I do not repond to insults but if you look at World Soccer you will see an excellent photo of the handball.
I agree with Vfish that Italy should forget about lawsuits. But the public relations campaign, 400,000 emails in the first 24 hours or whatever, and more after that, is a good thing. Italy will get good refs next time because Italians drew so much attention to the debacle.

John Galt: FIFA has not issued a statement criticizing Uli Schmeir. There have been "unprecedented" apologies from FIFA for the refs, especially in the games involving Korea.

[John Galt]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
John Galt: FIFA has not issued a statement criticizing Uli Schmeir. There have been "unprecedented" apologies from FIFA for the refs, especially in the games involving Korea.

I'm sorry, what is this in response to?

My question was related to the assertion that FIFA banned instant replays in the stadium after Donovan was whistled for a foul. So far you're the only source for this fact, so I'm just asking what evidence supports this.

[Dr. Wankler]

Originally posted by John Galt


I'm sorry, what is this in response to?

My question was related to the assertion that FIFA banned instant replays in the stadium after Donovan was whistled for a foul. So far you're the only source for this fact, so I'm just asking what evidence supports this.

I see some of you are new visitors to Planet Flannigan.

[Thomas Flannigan]

It seems like quite a coincidence. The World Cup was 11 days old when we go the shaft in Daegu, and instant replays had been used in games up to that point. The next day, or 2 days later, whatever, FIFA banned the use of instant replays. It seems like an odd coincidence after the many bad calls by Uli Schmeir that the fans could see clearly on the Daegu scoreboard. If you want me to give you a link "FIFA bans instant replay after Uli's bad day" I obviously can't do that. The World Wide Wrestling Federation does not issue statement acknowledging that the matches are rigged either.
Just my opinions.

[monster]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
I do not respond to Monster posts because I do not repond to insults but if you look at World Soccer you will see an excellent photo of the handball.

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
To Mario Kempes. World Soccer Magazine this month has an article about the outrageous refs in the Cup, and shows one photo while discussing the whole sordid affair. It is the handball and it is from a perfect angle.

You said there was "one photo." There were two. So, again, you are caught in a lie. But tilt along, Don Quixote.

And if you call a grainy picture taken through the net with absolutely no possibility of judging depth of field "a perfect angle," I suggest you visit your local eye doctor.

You don't respond, Thomas, because I bring truth and facts and links and reality into your little world.

[GoDC]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
It seems like quite a coincidence. The World Cup was 11 days old when we go the shaft in Daegu, and instant replays had been used in games up to that point. The next day, or 2 days later, whatever, FIFA banned the use of instant replays. It seems like an odd coincidence after the many bad calls by Uli Schmeir that the fans could see clearly on the Daegu scoreboard. If you want me to give you a link "FIFA bans instant replay after Uli's bad day" I obviously can't do that. The World Wide Wrestling Federation does not issue statement acknowledging that the matches are rigged either.
Just my opinions.

WWE, not WWF. Wrestling gets no respect around here anymore.

[Thomas Flannigan]

I ask the Moderator who insists on sending me belligerant and insulting PMs to stop.

[Craig P]

Who's Uli Schmeir?

The referee in the U.S./Korea Republic game was Urs Meier.

[monster]

Originally posted by Craig P
Who's Uli Schmeir?

The referee in the U.S./Korea Republic game was Urs Meier.

Facts, schmacts. This is FIFA rigging the World Cup, who's got time for facts?

FIFA had trouble rigging a one-man election. I doubt they can handle changing the course of an entire World Cup. But, that's me.

I prefer to blame the US loss to Germany more on a momentary lapse by Tony Sanneh, who played a wonderful tournament, than by High Dallas' actions.

I'm sure Gregg Berhalter's inability to line up an new employer for this season has to do with him ruining FIFA's plan by kicking the ball near the goal, thereby forcing Frings to knock it down with his hand, forcing Hugh Dallas to consult his secret decoder ring to get directions from FIFA on how not to call the play handling the ball.

[Thomas Flannigan]

Craig P: Thanks for the correction about the spelling of the Swiss ref's name. People are always messing up the spelling of Flannigan you know.
Thanks also to MassRef a few pages ago when he told us about the ref and AR being in electronic contact during the game. I was not aware of this until I read his post, which I assume is accurate.
A few months ago I started the thread about the chances of FIFA rigging games involving Korea. We talked about past World Cups and I repeated a story I had read during the 1998 World Cup, where the American ref of a match involving an African team and Norway, I believe, was accused of being in radio contact with the sideline, leading him to call a PK upon orders from above. It sounded pretty far-fetched to me, but I guess it isn't so far-fetched if the ref can communicate with the AR via hand beeper or whatever MasRef called the device.

[SoFla Metro]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
Dallas's outrageous yellow cards over setting the wall, something which never results in a card, put us in that hole.
Just so all you actually certified referees can read again and laugh.

[Aidaen]

Originally posted by GoDC


WWE, not WWF. Wrestling gets no respect around here anymore.

Yeah, the "World Wide Wrestling Federation" hasn't been around since the late 70's. Also, Mr. Flannigan - they have awknowledged that the matches are rigged, which is why they now refer to it as "Sports Entertainment."

[SoFla Metro]

Originally posted by thacharger


I agree, but it is hard to think what might have been....

We could have beat Korea. We could have beat Brazil. You're half right.

[SoFla Metro]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
Better to be quiet? FIFA likes it that way. The fans all over the world sure weren't quiet when they saw one outrageous call after another. An incompetent ref would blow calls both ways. No one has pointed out a bad call by Uli Schmeir or Dallas that helped the U.S. All of the bad calls helped the opposition.
You are never going to get one of these guys to confess anymore than a corrupt US President will ADMIT to wrongdoing. But people paying attetnion sure knows what is going on.
FIFA is facing a crisis in confidence and would not have made the extraordinary announcement conceding that the refs were bad unless it had to.
My opinions. Thomas, the men in the white coats are here for you. They are your friends.

[VFish]

It’s interesting you bring up the 1998 incident (it was Norway vs. Brazil by the way). After the game media and fans were quick to cry foul, claiming the “third world” ref was inept and talking of match fixing. TV replays were inconclusive and the Norwegians were deemed unworthy (All this sound familiar?). The next day a Swedish Television crew releases footage from a different angle that validates the American ref’s decision and the controversy dies.

[superdave]

Originally posted by Thomas Flannigan
THE BALL CROSSED THE LINE. This was clearer than Josh Wolff's disallowed goal against Costa Rica. I had a perfect view of that one too.
Thomas, I'll ask as nicely as I can. If you were 40 feet away from Kahn, how can you have had a perfect view? Please describe where you were, relative to the goal.

Thank you very much in advance for your response.