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listentobobmarley
28 Jan 2004, 03:40 AM
I'm in a Latin American history Course.

So I'm just gonna post stuff or facts that stick out in mind concerning México.


From A History of Latin America: Volume 2 Indepence to the Present: "The number of bars in México City rose from 51 in 1864 to 1,400 in 1900. At the end of the century, the Méxican death rate from alcoholism--a common response to intolerable conditions and labor--was estimated to be six times that of France."

Or the changes or lack their of after the revolutions that produced freedom from Spain.

Ramón Mercado a Colombian liberal stated, "The War against Spain was not a revolution...Independence only scratched the surface of the social problem, without changing its essential nature.

If you want to help educate me, feel free throw knowledge at me, I'll listen.

listentobobmarley
02 Feb 2004, 01:34 AM
1824-1825 English Bankers made loans of 32 million pesos to Mexico. However they only recieved 11 million befor the bankers went bankrupt.


By 1843 the national foreign debt had risin to more than 54 million pesos.


In 1830 el Banco de Avío was founded, which made loans that helped to ignite the rush to modernize Mexican Industary. It was successful for a awhile until 1843 when they went out of business which then caused the Mexican economy to continue to rely on Exporting goods and importing textiles and other goods.

listentobobmarley
02 Feb 2004, 02:16 AM
Oh yeah the U.S. voilated the terms of the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.








Not that it's like the first time they voilated a treaty.

listentobobmarley
02 Feb 2004, 02:20 AM
In 1853 Santa Ana proclaimed himself perpetual dictator.

listentobobmarley
02 Feb 2004, 02:27 AM
In 1862 England Spain and France invaded Veracurz.

AMEPUNKANIST
02 Feb 2004, 02:38 AM
hey what would of happen if mexico had lost the war against france...i wouldn't mind speakin FRENCH

Levante
02 Feb 2004, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by listentobobmarley
In 1862 England Spain and France invaded Veracurz.

Invaded because of money owed to them........anyways, that was their premise.

England and Spain eventually left after side agreements, but France really wanted another colony over here.

This war was the final war that kept Europe out of the Americas for good.

sidspaceman
02 Feb 2004, 01:45 PM
Well except for the French, Dutch, and English in the Caribbean and the Spanish in Cuba. :D

listentobobmarley
03 Feb 2004, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Levante
Invaded because of money owed to them........anyways, that was their premise.

England and Spain eventually left after side agreements, but France really wanted another colony over here.

This war was the final war that kept Europe out of the Americas for good.

France put an out of work arch-duke into power - so Maximillan became the Emperor of México.

listentobobmarley
03 Feb 2004, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Levante
Invaded because of money owed to them........anyways, that was their premise.

England and Spain eventually left after side agreements, but France really wanted another colony over here.

This war was the final war that kept Europe out of the Americas for good.

France put an out of work arch-duke into power - so Maximillan became the Emperor of México.

Levante
03 Feb 2004, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by listentobobmarley
France put an out of work arch-duke into power - so Maximillan became the Emperor of México.

Yeah.........and he paid dearly for it.
Obstinate fool. Are you liking the class?

listentobobmarley
03 Feb 2004, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by Levante
Yeah.........and he paid dearly for it.
Obstinate fool. Are you liking the class?

Yeah I'm loving it.

It's my favorite class.

Various Styles
03 Feb 2004, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by AMEPUNKANIST

hey what would of happen if mexico had lost the war against france...i wouldn't mind speakin FRENCH

We would have a much better National team with many African players, woOt WoOT.. Some more really cool buildings and would have surrendered more than half our territory to the U.S. So Mexico would officially begin in Guadalajara which would be full of Gueros and D.F would have a Madri Grass type Celebration, Tepito would be replaced with a French quarters and we would make some kick ass spicy baguets.. Oh and Mariachi songs would be in French.. .

AMEPUNKANIST
04 Feb 2004, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Various Styles
Originally posted by AMEPUNKANIST

hey what would of happen if mexico had lost the war against france...i wouldn't mind speakin FRENCH

We would have a much better National team with many African players, woOt WoOT.. Some more really cool buildings and would have surrendered more than half our territory to the U.S. So Mexico would officially begin in Guadalajara which would be full of Gueros and D.F would have a Madri Grass type Celebration, Tepito would be replaced with a French quarters and we would make some kick ass spicy baguets.. Oh and Mariachi songs would be in French.. .

MARIACHI MUSIC WOULD BE MORE WORLD CLASS AND MIX WITH SOME RAVE/TECHNO SONGS

AND IT WOULD BE MEXIQUE INSTEAD OF MEXICO

Hecho en Mexico
09 Feb 2004, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by AMEPUNKANIST
MARIACHI MUSIC WOULD BE MORE WORLD CLASS AND MIX WITH SOME RAVE/TECHNO SONGS

AND IT WOULD BE MEXIQUE INSTEAD OF MEXICO

uh no...techno is gay.

AMEPUNKANIST
10 Feb 2004, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Impaled
uh no...techno is gay.

UH BETTER THEN THAT MARIACHI.....


BUT CHECK THIS OUT...ITS EFFIN FUNNY

OUThttp://www.ebaumsworld.com/endofworld.html

listentobobmarley
29 Feb 2004, 03:56 PM
I got an 100.5 on my midterm for this class.


Awesome.

Don Boppero 3000
29 Feb 2004, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by AMEPUNKANIST
UH BETTER THEN THAT MARIACHI.....


BUT CHECK THIS OUT...ITS EFFIN FUNNY

OUThttp://www.ebaumsworld.com/endofworld.html



Mariachi music is world class and the pride of the Mexican people. We don't need french clowns who steal Chicago House Music and call it French house to improve Mexican Music. Besides if you like techno you would know that what you mention above the fusion of techno and Mirachi has been done. Check the CD Nortech The Tijuana Sessions Vol 1. by various Mexican techno DJs. It cotains snars and Drums from Nortenas and other types of Mexican music made by some hip Mexicans. If it makes you feel better it was a rage in Europe.

Don Boppero 3000
29 Feb 2004, 04:41 PM
www.milrecords.com

Check it!

AMEPUNKANIST
29 Feb 2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by bopper78
Mariachi music is world class and the pride of the Mexican people. We don't need french clowns who steal Chicago House Music and call it French house to improve Mexican Music. Besides if you like techno you would know that what you mention above the fusion of techno and Mirachi has been done. Check the CD Nortech The Tijuana Sessions Vol 1. by various Mexican techno DJs. It cotains snars and Drums from Nortenas and other types of Mexican music made by some hip Mexicans. If it makes you feel better it was a rage in Europe.

jaja...wey i use to lived in SAN DIEGO...i sometimes went to see the djs of NORTEC) NOT NORTECH..
LIKE FUSSI N TERRESTRE..n those other djs...i already have that collective cd..plus other more.
and its not even mariachi music mixed w/ house
its a sonora eletronica....jaja
oo heres other movements
from guadalajara
www.nopalbeat.com
www.seducionsonora.com