fans showing up to root against Chivas USA is BAD

[uclacarlos]

There are some posters in BS who wish to discuss Chivas issues but are having difficulty finding the correct forum to do so. This has been augmented by the fact that the MLS forum moderators no longer participate on BS.

MiamiAce, in all his splendor...
Originally posted by MiamiAce
Is it bad if rival fans of club Chivas in Mexico attend Chivas-USA games for the reason of rooting against them as they would back home?.....ummmmmm, OF COURSE IT IS!

If a fan's motive for attending an MLS game is based on reasons from another league with different teams, then where does that leave the MLS and its story? MLS could quicky become something else in its entirety. Perhaps even become a giant extension of the Mexican soccer league in the long run. And thus it will not be easily indentifiable to the average American sports fan. Its not just a Mexican thing as you might assume, its a nationality concept. If Barcelona or Manchester or Stuttgart would stamp their name on one of our teams, I'd still be very upset. We shouldn't have to rely on another league's "brand names" to support our very own.

Any takers?

[uclacarlos]

I can't say I'm all to shocked that this thread has so few ppl even looking at it. It's probably b/c the content really is not that novel.

Here's a quote from another thread that seems apropos, kind of. Riverplate, mil disculpas for taking your words and humoring MiamiAce...
Originally posted by riverplate
The posts which amuse me the most are those claiming to never again give a dime to MLS if they go through with bringing ChivasUSA into existence. Yes, you will. You'll be there frothing at the mouth and cursing at the top of your lungs. The last thing you'll want is to turn the stadiums over to Chivas rooters, Mexican or otherwise, when the team comes to town.

MLS will love you for the rivalry you're fostering. And you'll be paying to see it just like the rest of us.
Translation for the reading comrehension impaired:
Passion brings fans into the stadium and makes them watch on t.v., which MLS has to buy, btw. This is good. Unless you enjoy being the benefactor of consumer welfare, which is what we all are up to this point b/c the league is in the red.

[metros11]

I have no problems with Chivas USA as long as they're called Houston Chivas or San Diego Chivas or wherever they may play. I also don't see any problems with people showing up to root against or for Chivas, in my personal opinion the problem with the team is that many hispanics will look at the team simply as the Chivas reserve squad and won't attend the games. In addition, I also fear that American soccer fans will be discouraged by the addition of Chivas into MLS because we're trying to build our own league after all, not trying to merge with the Mexican league. Either way as it stands right now, if the idea fails MLS will be exactly where it started.

[efernandez9]

give me back the MUTINY

that is how all started, few hrs after the first game in san Jose and waldo's historic goal.

[MiamiAce]

Originally posted by uclacarlos
I can't say I'm all to shocked that this thread has so few ppl even looking at it. It's probably b/c the content really is not that novel.

First of all, I'm honored that my point of views have deeply penetrated your mind so righteously and convincingly, that you feel the utmost painstaking desire to start a whole new thread dedicated to me and my profound views.

Secondly, isn't it such a shame that you start a thread with such a hope for a grand response from anybody else... but disappointedly you have to write a reply to yourself and thus begin a conversation with yourself?


Translation for the reading comrehension impaired:
How many times are you going to say this same un-funny stupid phrase? -the problem seems to be that when you came from Spain, the ESOL teachers made you take too many reading comprehension tests to learn English that the words are drilled in your brain.

Passion brings fans into the stadium and makes them watch on t.v., which MLS has to buy, btw.
This and all your other nasty comments about the MLS PROVES to me that you don't give a crap about the current MLS, its efforts, its dignity, its fans, or anything other than your own narrow-minded vision to propose a ""heavenly, rescueing"" self-interest prospect.

Unless you enjoy being the benefactor of consumer welfare, which is what we all are up to this point b/c the league is in the red.
Again! What garbage is this that spits out of your nonsensical mouth? Let me see, let me see... trying to make some sense of it, hmmm, let me see.... Oh my bad!...

...its more MLS-bashing, I should have known better from you.

[uclacarlos]

Originally posted by MiamiAce
Isn't it such a shame that you start a thread with such a hope for a grand response from anybody else... but disappointedly you have to write a reply to yourself and thus begin a conversation with yourself?
Uh... my point was that your observations are so limited in scope and originality that few ppl would "take" the thread on. Once again:
I can't say I'm all to shocked that this thread has so few ppl even looking at it. It's probably b/c the content really is not that novel.
Really, only Metros11 responded to the thread, and even HE didn't address your observation.
Originally posted by MiamiAce
How many times are you going to say this same un-funny stupid phrase?
Dude, as long as you continue to fail miserably at understanding what you purport to read!! Vease arriba.
Originally posted by MiamiAce
the problem seems to be that when you came from Spain, the ESOL teachers made you take too many reading comprehension tests to learn English that the words are drilled in your brain.
What's ESOL? I've never heard of it. And I never stepped foot in an ESL class until I had to observe one during a pedagogy course in grad school.

Originally posted by MiamiAce
This and all your other nasty comments about the MLS PROVES to me that you don't give a crap about the current MLS, its efforts, its dignity, its fans, or anything other than your own narrow-minded vision to propose a ""heavenly, rescueing"" self-interest prospect.
First of all, no it doesn't PROVE anything. Seriously, take a course in Logic. Address Riverplate, not me.
Originally posted by MiamiAce
Again! What garbage is this that spits out of your nonsensical mouth? Let me see, let me see... trying to make some sense of it, hmmm, let me see.... Oh my bad!...
I don't expect you to understand it. I mean, you can't even untangle a complex usage of a direct object phrase. And I won't re-explain it... b/c it's pretty obvious the point is useless. In short, just b/c YOU can't understand does not make what I have said nonsensical.
Originally posted by MiamiAce
...its more MLS-bashing, I should have known better from you.
How many ppl do you bring into MLS per year? Last year, I brought 18 friends and family member to SJE and LAG. I love MLS. It's now my favorite league. TAking a realistic look at the fiscal position of the league does not make me an MLS basher.

Again, not everything in life is black and white (well, and yellow for some ppl). And again, reading comprehension, ese, reading comprehension! Try it.

[Cosme]

Oh snap. Carlos just gave it to Miami.

Nothing much to say in regards to the question being addressed. Carlos pretty much covered it.

-danny.

[uclacarlos]

Welcome to the boards Danny of the Just kind!